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timmoishere
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1/22 10:35am
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Because Boba Fett was stuck on Gall for a while getting his ship repaired. Once it was fixed, he went back to Tatooine.
As for Lando being employed by Jabba, Lando used an alias, for obvious reasons. He was known as Tamtel Skreej in the palace. He had been hired a few weeks prior to ROTJ's beginning.
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_Sublime_Skywalker_
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1/22 10:37am
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It's pretty convienent that Jabba was hiring skiff guards just before Luke shows up.
He should've doubled up on Rancors, though.
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morpha2
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Vortigorn, I can't really see Jabba being aware of Lando's situation or even the planet Bespin's existence for that matter. He always struck me as being sort of small time--a big fish on Tatooine and its surrounding systems, but not nearly the galactic player he's made out to be. Your other points are well taken.
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zombie
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1/22 11:00am
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Vortigern, the Lando thing is unrealistic in any timeline, whether its 4 weeks, 52 weeks, or two years; say Lando shows up at Jabbas palace not two weeks after ESB but six months--how does that invalidate the very rational criticism you made? It doesn't. How does Lando magically get hired by Jabba's court, whether two weeks or a year after ESB? For the same reason that Luke and Han stroll around the Death Star magically undetected in ANH--its a Star Wars film. Speaking in terms of real life, implanted moles often take years to get close to the heads of crime families, and must prove their loyalty through some questionable deeds--for a realistic depiction see The Departed, Infernal Affairs or Donnie Brasco. Thats a realistic depiction of how one would get themselves on the inside the way Lando did, and it takes years of patience; but we're dealing with Star Wars, which emulates the adventure films of the 40's where the hero can infiltrate an enemy base, don a disguise and against all logic be accepted by the enemy as one of their own. This is James Bond logic we're dealing with here.
As for Luke's lightsaber, again, how long do you really think it would take? Its not like Luke is doing anything else. The materials could be obtained within a few days or weeks, and the thing built in a few days or weeks; realistically I'd say a week to scavange and a week to build. But this still doesn't answer the question of how the hell Luke even knows how to build one. In the deleted scene I think the background was that he found instructions--and possibly even parts--from a stache in Ben's old hut, since that is where the scene takes place if I am not mistaken.
The Yoda thing--yes, thats very peculiar. But I think most people know whats simply going on--contrived writing. Lucas wanted Luke to be on his own, at all costs--in the original drafts Yoda simply appears to Luke in a dream and goes "guess what? I just died...", but Marquand wanted to see Luke return to Dagobah, so instead Luke finds Yoda who then conveniently dies right away. Yoda's death is the only really awkward part of the timeline, but then its always been a bit awkward anyway, and one should look at it the same way one looks at the awkward Leia-is-your-sister point that flows from Yoda's death (actually, in the original scripts Yoda appears to Luke and goes "guess what? I just died. Oh, and, uh, Leia is your sister. Okay, bye!"--talk about awkward!)
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LAJ_FETT
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1/22 11:27am
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RE: Why is there a 1 year gap between TESB and ROTJ?
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Lando's tale is told in the Scoundrel's Wages comic, collected in the Star Wars Bounty Hunters tpb. Basically Lando is sentenced by Quaffug the Hutt to run the Duff-Jikab (Cutthroat Hunt). To make a long story short, he survives that and a fight to the death. Quaffug's life is in his hands and Lando's price is 'a recommendation - a letter of reference, if you will. I want in to the Hutt Guardsmman's Guild with no questions asked..'. When Quaffug asks why Lando says, 'let's just say I need to retrieve some stolen merchandise'.
With a recommendation from Quaffug and Guild membership I'd imagine Jabba would have no qualms about hiring him.
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SoonerSean
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1/22 11:39am
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I read not long in the book Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force (fairly recent title) where it has "interviews" with characters. In it Luke says that he built his lightsaber using instructions found in Ben's old home (as noted above in another post). It talks about how nervous he was turning it on for the 1st time.
I think that lends credence to a much shorter time span between films than some might argue. I realize it's EU stuff - but even though we don't see him do so - Luke did have to build a saber.
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BaronLandoCalrissian
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1/22 12:15pm
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It feels like one month to me. That's plenty of time for someone elderly like Yoda to take a bad turn. And for Luke to build a saber, assuming all the parts he needed were still at Ben's house (including Qui-Gon's saber?). And for Lando to get a simple rent-a-cop job with a fake identity. (remember Jabba IS the law on Tatooine, he's a "crime lord", but he's not in hiding or under any investigation. It's like getting a valet job at Suge Knight's club.)
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timmoishere
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Luke did not use any parts of Qui-Gon's saber. He built his lightsaber entirely from scratch, and he made a synthetic crystal using a small blast furnace in Obi-Wan's hut.
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Nordom
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Another question is why Luke prefered to teach himself about being a jedi and building his own saber rather than to go back to Yoda. Why deny yourself a skilled master for no reason? In RotJ he does come back to finish his training so why waste several months teaching yourself when a trainer is avaliable?
Also Luke would want to know if Vader really was his father and I imagine that would be rather prominent on his mind.
In closing, to me it seems like 1-2 months passed between ESB and RotJ.
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RacingStar
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I am new here but have been a closet fan for years, so I am not sure if that means my reply will be weighted heavily but....
perhaps the strain on Yoda when Luke left his training early caused Yoda to fall ill and progress quickly (months rather than years?) I am not saying there was or was not a long period of time but he was despondent when Luke left early to face Vader. He also knew later in RTJ that Luke would have to face Vader alone...so perhaps he knew there was nothing left for him to do...
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Vortigern99 posted:
To cap this off, in the movie C3PO says "Lando Calrissian never came back from this awful place," clearly indicating that more than a few days or weeks have passed.
Actually, C-3PO says "Lando Calrissian and poor Chewbacca never returned from this awful place," a line which ends up making absolutely no sense when Leia brings Chewbacca in later. I tend to pretend that line doesn't exist, given that it's directly contradicted by action in the film.
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timmoishere
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C-3PO wasn't in on the plan, which was intentional on Luke's part. He wanted to make C-3PO's surprise at being given to Jabba be genuine.
In any case, he didn't know what any of the others had planned. He falsely assumed that Chewbacca was with Lando, when in fact Lando had gone in alone.
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Alpha-Red
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zombie posted:
Jabba lives on Tatooine and they say they are meeting on Tatooine. Put two and two together. Theres no need to complicate things with tales of detour adventures, Fett's a bounty hunter delivering the bounty to his contracter, whom he would want to recieve payment from as soon as possible, which is why Lando and Luke at the end of ESB are planning to rescue Han by way of a mission to Tatooine.
Yes, Jabba lives on Tatooine. But we only know that because we watched Return of the Jedi. If you had only watched up to ESB then you would not know that Jabba lives on Tatooine. Jabba also has a lot of enemies that want to kill him or depose of him. By taking Han Solo captive, he adds Luke Skywalker to that list. That is why he will not register his permanent address as 1123 Dune Sea Road, Tatooine, Arkanis Sector.
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Nordom
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Alpha-Red posted:
Yes, Jabba lives on Tatooine. But we only know that because we watched Return of the Jedi. If you had only watched up to ESB then you would not know that Jabba lives on Tatooine. Jabba also has a lot of enemies that want to kill him or depose of him. By taking Han Solo captive, he adds Luke Skywalker to that list. That is why he will not register his permanent address as 1123 Dune Sea Road, Tatooine, Arkanis Sector.
We ceratinly know that Jabba lives on Tatooine because a) in ESB Luke says that he will meet Lando on Tatooine and b) we meet Jabbo ON Tatooine in ANH when he talks with Solo and c) in TPM we see Jabba on Tatooine at the pod race. There is nothing in ANH that suggests that Jabba is not living on Tatooine nor that he has loads of enemies and has to live in secret.
In all everything we know from the films clearly says that Jabba lives on Tatooine and nothing at all suggests otherwise.
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_Sublime_Skywalker_
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Jabba definitly lives on Tatooine. Theres so many books that reference him ALWAYS being on Tattoine, plus the scenes Nordom brought up. Why else would it be called "Jabba's Palace" if he didn't live there. I don't think slugs are fond of movement, let alone space travel.
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