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skyysoblue
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1/23 5:12pm
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when did they actually start building the death star?
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There are a few threads here trying to figure out how it took 15 years to build the first Death Star, but only 4 to get the second larger one operational.
However, even though we see them building the deathstar at the end of ROTS, that doesn't mean they started it way back then.
It is possible that the Death Star construction did not begin until the Emperor considered the rebels to be a real threat...
is there anything out there which indicates that the emperor actually started building it right after ROTS?
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General Kenobi
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I'm sorry, but I cannot make any sense of your post.
The first Death Star was in the early stages of construction in the final scenes of ROTS. Construction began sometime between the time Lord Tyranus gave the plans to Sidious at the end of AOTC and that scene in ROTS. It's simple logic.
Now as for the DSII, I guess you have to read the scroll of ROTJ.
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morpha2
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skyysoblue posted:
is there anything out there which indicates that the emperor actually started building it right after ROTS?
You mean besides the scene from ROTS that you're referring to? Unless GL warped forward through time to show that and then back again to show Obi-Wan delivering Luke to the Lars homestead, I think it's safe to assume that construction started somewhere around the time of ROTS if not before.
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timmoishere
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Preliminary plans were being made for a second Death Star during ANH, but actual construction didn't begin until after the first one was destroyed.
The reason the first Death Star took so long to build was because there was a lot of trial and error. A lot of research had to be done in designing the hypermatter reactor core, as well as the superlaser itself. When they were building the second one, they knew what they were doing so it took much less time.
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JediPrimePA
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Is it possible that both Death Stars were actually being built about the same time to be both put into operation and make the Empire more powerful.
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The OP makes my brain hurt... Please clarify your question based on the responses above!!
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Darth_Davi
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The only thing I can think of is that perhaps that particular scene was not chronologically in place...that perhaps it was included in ROTS to show it being constructed, but that particular scene wasn't meant to show that construction began then, but that the shot was a glimpse of the future, not the present...It doesn't make much dramatic sense if that scene doesn't fit in chronologically with the shots before and after it, but rather shows events years into the future, but perhaps that is what skyysoblue is referring to?
Personally, I wish Lucas hadn't said that it was definitely the DSI we see, because then we could just say it was a wireframe of a prototype, (which would also prevent us from having to retcon Kevin J. Anderson's JKA trilogy)and also would give us more leeway in timing...
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skyysoblue
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Everyone is saying that since the scene showing the death star being built was at the end of ROTS, that it must have been in that stage of construction at the time that Obi Wan delivered the baby Luke to Uncle Owen.
Because of this supposition, everyone debates why the second one could be built so quickly when it took so long to build the first one.
My question is actually addressing whether that scene in ROTS was immediately after Luke was born, or perhaps several years later when the rebellion started.
We already know that the timeline is not 100% accurate because Luke appears to have been delivered days after his birth wheras the Death Star appears to be more than a few days into the contruction phase. (unless someone is going to argue that the Emperor started construction during the clone war)
The question is: Besides the fact that the Death Star scene is shown at the end of ROTS, is there anything else which inidicates construction begun shortly after the Emperor took power or, as I am suggesting, much later when the rebellion started to pose a threat to the Emperor.
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timmoishere
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The novel Dark Lord definitely places the Death Star scene a few days at most after Vader was put in the armor.
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solo77
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It is at the end of ROTS which is NOT a year or so after the rest of the movies events, but yes shortly after the time of the births
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timmoishere posted:
Preliminary plans were being made for a second Death Star during ANH, but actual construction didn't begin until after the first one was destroyed.
The reason the first Death Star took so long to build was because there was a lot of trial and error. A lot of research had to be done in designing the hypermatter reactor core, as well as the superlaser itself. When they were building the second one, they knew what they were doing so it took much less time.
I'm gonna go with that. Makes sense.
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voodoopuuduu
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Judging by how far along it was in the ROTS final scenes, I would say that construction may have started even before the clone wars began. We see the plans in AOTC, but construction may have already started.
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Darthbane2007
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I'd say that construction began right after ROTS ended.
Like another person said, the reason it took so long to build the first one was because, nobody had ever built a planet sized battlestation before. They had to put the preliminary designs and prototypes to test it first. Then think of all the material needed to build something that size. Then you have slave labor, labor unions, stuff like that to deal with and it could have easily taken 15-20 years.
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General Kenobi
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skyysoblue posted:
is there anything else which inidicates construction begun shortly after the Emperor took power or, as I am suggesting, much later when the rebellion started to pose a threat to the Emperor.
Remember that Palpatine "took power" in AOTC, with the authorization of the clone army (and accompanying fleet) and with the Senate giving emergency executive powers to the Chancellor. He was able to set up Order 66 well ahead of the events of ROTS, and almost certainly arranged for construction of the Death Star to secretly begin once the plans were in his hands.
skyysoblue posted:
Because of this supposition, everyone debates why the second one could be built so quickly when it took so long to build the first one.
In addition to some of the practical answers given above, remember that the initial purpose of the DSII was to set a trap for the Rebellion. It was "finished" (fully armed and operational) in ROTJ when it was about half physically completed (in comparison to the original DS). That alone cuts a significant amount of time. If Palpatine's plan had worked, and the Alliance had been crushed at Endor, then I imagine that the DSII would have spent at least a few more years under construction to complete the sphere.
p.s. Don't forget the additional motivation provided by Lord Vader to the DSII construction workers. (Even though it appears to be a relatively short amount of time in the construction.) Sith Lord efficiency FTW. 
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