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Why was Luke allowed to go with Han Solo's Stike team on Endor?
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Blackout
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Oct '00
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2/1 10:59am
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It still seems like the logistical equivalent of putting all the eggs in one basket though 
Luke: I'll go with them please!
Ackbar: ...with your mates?
Luke: Yeah, y'know - established team spirit and all that.
Mothma: But you're a Force user aren't you?
Luke: You know I am, baby. 
Mothma: Well, what if Vader senses you? He's a Force user too, that could endanger the mission...
Luke: He's up on the Death Star, how's he going to do that?
Mothma: Well...
Luke: If I go steaming into the DS in a small ship again, then he'll probably pick me up. But there's too much 'life' on Endor for me to register. Trust me, the best place I can go is down to Endor.
Ackbar: You've got a point I suppose. Go on then... 
Mothma: Just don't go trotting off half-way through the mission, okay?
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Darth_Davi
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2/1 11:31am
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Blackout posted:
It still seems like the logistical equivalent of putting all the eggs in one basket though
The entire strategy regarding the Rebellion's attack on the DSII was putting all of their eggs in one basket. If they had failed there, the Rebellion would have been essentially wiped out. They threw everything they had in that operation. When you are desperate, you do desperate things.
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DarthBoba
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2/1 5:25pm
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Luke does what he damn well feels like doing after Yavin, anyway. "Oh, rendevous...pfft, I'm going somewhere else, see ya." 
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Chancellor_Ewok
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2/1 6:59pm
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I would presume that he went on the mission because he recognized that having a Jedi on the team might come in handy. Also, he knew that Vader and the Emperor were look for him and looking to convert him. Its possible that his prescence on Han's strike team was meant to divert their attention to the planet and keep them off guard until the fleet arrived. It didn't quite work that, obviously, but it probably seemed like a good idea to the Rebellion's senior leadership.
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Steven_R
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2/3 6:09pm
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By this time, pretty much the entire Rebellion has accepted that Luke is a Jedi Knight. They don't really get assigned and come and go as they please.
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rumsmuggler
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2/3 9:52pm
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Steven_R posted:
By this time, pretty much the entire Rebellion has accepted that Luke is a Jedi Knight. They don't really get assigned and come and go as they please.
Indeed. Anyways, Wedge is co-founder and 2nd in command of Rogue Squadron. He's is more than capable of leading the fighter attack on the DS II..
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Luke_SW
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2/4 10:18am
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Rebels are there on a voluntary basis, and the Alliance could use any help they could get, I'm sure they figured Luke would be helpful and resourceful no matter where he decided to help out, and after his successes thus far, he most definitely had enough clout and say-so within the Alliance to call his own shots
Even Han Solo called his own shots, deciding to leave (or at least attempt to leave/part ways) with the Alliance as he pleased, first at the end of ANH then again at the beginning of ESB.
And what about all of their side mission of rescuing Han from Jabba's Palace
I doubt sending a Princess, 2 Generals, a Wookie, and 2 Droids to rescue ONE Rebel from a distant planet was high on the Alliance's agenda. I don't think there was much of a hierarchy in the Alliance, or that Rebels were really obligated to do anything that they didn't want to do or were ORDERED to do. It wasn't a dictatorship like the Empire was.
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Darth_Maul_Sith_Lord
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" Besides what did Luke really do on Endor anyway?"
Uhhh, Surrendered himself to Vader, who took him before Palpatine, who tried to destroy him, thus turning Anakin back to the light, who then kills Palps and ends the reign of the Empire...
So... A lot.
I'm just being a smart ***, I know what you meant. But I think Luke was literally following the will of the force.
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JediMasterChiefYoda
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2/5 8:32am
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Since Mon Mothma was once a Senator in the ranks of Padme and Bail, she'd have a great deal of respect for a Jedi Knight. Now that she's leading a rebellion, one suddenly appears in her ranks. After years of fighting, it comes down to a do-or-die fight. The Jedi comes up to her (of course he has access) and says that he can distract the Emperor and his apprentance. Seeing that they are both very strong Force users (one being the Hero With No Fear), she naturally takes any help she can to keep them off the battlefield and slaughtering her troops wholesale.
Or, at least it makes sense to me.
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Darth_Davi
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2/5 9:51am
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Luke also saves Han and Chewie's life on Endor, who would later be pivotal in bringing the shield down, so that the fleet could move in on the Death Star. If Luke isn't with them, and Chewie trips the meat trap, once they are brought back to the Ewok village, there is nobody around who can allow C3PO to "impersonate a deity". IE, the Ewoks have no reason not to cook them and eat them as a meal, as they were planning on doing. Leia's attempt to convince them failed. It was only through Luke's usage of the Force that convinced them cooking up Han and Chewie wouldn't be a good idea. Without that, they are dead. If they are dead, they can't convince the Ewoks to help them overthrow the Imperial forces on planet, they fail to blow up the bunker, the Death Star shield stays up, and the Rebellion dies once and for all. Perhaps Luke still ends up on the Death Star, perhaps he still converts Vader back to the light side, and perhaps the Emperor still dies...the Death Star is still there though. Unless Luke is powerful enough to take over the entire Death Star all by himself, even with the death of the Emperor, the Empire wins.
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SithMaster_69
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SoonerSean posted:
A bigger question is why did a bunch of troops realize the importance of camouflage, but then decide to bring along a gleaming gold droid with them?
I mean... couldn't they hit him with a can of green spray paint?
Actually that could be asked of the Imperials. You are on a forested world. why are you wearing snow white armor?. On hoth I could see it. But Endor?
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timmoishere
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2/5 11:49am
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Arrogance, I guess. They didn't see the need for camoflage because they thought they could handle any threats they encountered.
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Darth_Davi
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timmoishere posted:
Arrogance, I guess. They didn't see the need for camoflage because they thought they could handle any threats they encountered.
And yet, the Clones on Kashyyyk, supposedly with all of Jango Fett's skills, managed to find camouflaged armor...Had the Clones not been seen wearing camo armor, I could buy the arrogance argument. But, if the Clone troopers were smart enough to wear it, even though they had every right to be arrogant, they were supposedly the best troopers in the galaxy, then it seems that the scout troopers on Endor would also have been smart enough to wear it. Clone Troopers plus tough as nails Wookiees = handling any threats they encountered too...yet, they are camouflaged.
As for C3PO, the Rebels had their own troopers wearing camouflage as well...that they didn't attempt to disguise C3PO or R2D2 was either a huge military blunder, or George Lucas saying that we the audience wouldn't be smart enough to recognize either droid if he altered their appearance somehow...from a strategic standpoint, they certainly should have painted up C3PO and R2D2 in camouflage, same as the rebel soldiers. The droids would clearly stand out, and since Endor is a forest world, the presence of droids would be a huge tip off that the rebels were there...its not like if they were mounting an attack on Coruscant, where protocol droids are everywhere, on Endor, droids are clearly out of place. They definitely should have been disguised.
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timmoishere
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What I meant was, the Empire wanted its troops to be visible so as to intimidate the populace.
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Darth_Davi
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timmoishere posted:
What I meant was, the Empire wanted its troops to be visible so as to intimidate the populace.
somehow I would doubt the strategy's effectiveness against a tribe of Ewoks. However, when you have a very critical bunker that is the only thing protecting the Death Star physically from attack, I would think you would favor a more common sensical defensive strategy.
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