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Arawn_Fenn
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4/22 3:43pm
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-polymath- posted:
I am sure there's EU that establishes that he knew that Vader is Anakin
Yes, it's the book Dark Lord.
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rumsmuggler
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-polymath- posted:
True. Skywalker might be like Smith or Jones in the gffa.
Nope, that would be Antilles.
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Darky5K
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-polymath- posted:
I am sure there's EU that establishes that he knew that Vader is Anakin but based solely on the films, I don't think it's there. Only a select few knew that Anakin had assumed the title Darth Vader prior to the events on Mustafar. The separatists were all killed and Obi-wan and Yoda were both exiled. I guess it's logical to assume that Obi-wan explained things to Bail on Polis Massa but we never know for certain based on the content of the movies.
Either way, Bail was well involved with knowing the Sith won and why the twins had to be hidden. It would be reckless for Obi-Wan and Yoda to not mention WHY the Sith may want the twins
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voodoopuuduu
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DarthButt posted:
But not necessarily that they were married...
Yep, and how would Bail know that the Lars would name Luke Skywalker ? (is there EU somewhere stating Bail knew Lukes last name ?) After all, Bail named his adopted girl Leia Organa. It would be logical for Bail to assume Owen and Beru would name Luke Lars, as terrible as that sounds.
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solojones
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Hm, very good question. I'd never thought about that. It makes sense, though. Because Bail might have talked about Anakin... although, since I do believe he must have known Anakin = Vader, then he might not have mentioned Anakin after all for just not wanting to go there.
However, I think even if Bail didn't talk about it, it seems likely that if Leia knew anything about history she'd know about Anakin. She knows about Obi-Wan from Bail, but I get the impression the official Empire party line would have been something like, "Anakin Skywalker, the Jedi Hero Without Fear, was one of the few Jedi who did not participate in the government overthrow. For this, General Obi-Wan Kenobi turned against his former apprentice and killed him on Mustafar. Obi-Wan Kenobi is on the run. If you see him, report it to the Empire authorities now."
They could have pretended Anakin was killed in the purge, but why? If they could pin his "death" on Obi-Wan it would help motivate hatred toward him. So it's possible Leia would have heard this story. Which may have prompted Bail to tell her some of the truth about Obi-Wan, and maybe skirt around the Anakin issue.
...that's how I envision it, anyway.
Also, it makes more sense for Luke to keep his family name on Tatooine because Skywalker is a name at least some locals have/had. Also, it's Owen's step-mom's name, so he could pass off the, "Oh, we're family" thing with that and just skip a few details. After all, he probably just told Luke his father was from Tatooine, a fighter pilot in the CW, died, and Owen's his uncle... which is true, from a certain point of view 
And people in the Outer Rim don't seem to know much about Jedi history, which would explain Luke not knowing about Anakin or Obi-Wan's past.
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rumsmuggler
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solojones posted:
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And people in the Outer Rim don't seem to know much about Jedi history, which would explain Luke not knowing about Anakin or Obi-Wan's past.
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Nope. You can blame Uncle Owen for Luke not knowing about Anakin and Obi Wan.
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Humanity likes to think you can blame Anakin for Luke not knowing about Anakin and Obi-wan. But, this is just Humanity's speculation based on it's collective knowledge. If you take it farther, it would be Palpatine's master that may, also, claim blaim for Luke not knowing about Anakin and Obi-wan.
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You can blame Uncle Owen for Luke not knowing about Anakin and Obi Wan.
That wizard's just a crazy old man.
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voodoopuuduu posted:
You can blame Uncle Owen for Luke not truly knowing about Anakin and Obi Wan.
That wizard's just a crazy old man.
I meant other than that, and that crap of a story about Anakin being a navigator on a spice freighter.
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solojones
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Well, yeah, obviously Owen was covering up. But I mean that in general he might have heard about them otherwise if he hadn't been out in the middle of nowhere. It is history, after all. The Empire probably didn't erase it so much as spin it.
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Obi-Clone_Kenobi posted:
We know Bail told her about Obi-Wan being a general in the Clone Wars, and it seems like it would be difficult to talk about all he accomplished and never mention Anakin.
Even if Obi Wan mentioned Anakin that doesn't mean that Leia ever heard Anakin's last name.
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Darky5K
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solojones posted:
And people in the Outer Rim don't seem to know much about Jedi history, which would explain Luke not knowing about Anakin or Obi-Wan's past.
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I always thought it was because the Empire banned any education regarding the Force, whether it be religious, historical, scientific, etc. Luke seemed aware of the Clone Wars and Obi-Wan as a Jedi, just not the Force. Didn't the Empire censor things regarding midicholorians and such anyway, as seen in Death Star?
Anakin had heard about the Jedi, and he was a slave. Luke never was, but he'd heard about the Jedi too, just not the Force. I would assume back when the Jedi were the big talk of the galaxy, the Force was heard of. We know it was heard of by even Jar-Jar, Bane when he was poor, and others.
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Chico_Jedi
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Anakin was a renown Hero Without Fear. However, it is possible that all traces of Anakin Skywalker were deleted from the galactic history in days of the Empire.
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Yeah that's what always bothered me about the time gaps. Its only been 19 years since the fall of the Jedi. Han says its a hokey religion as does the empire commanders. They are old enough to remember the glory days of the Jedi, when thousands of Jedi were spread throughout the galaxy valiantly fighting in the clone wars, and Anakin and Obi-wan were HEROS. People still vividly remember Vietnam and that was 40 years ago. I can understand that Anakin being Vader was not known but how could the jedi be forgotten that quickly.
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Imperials must have one good propaganda.
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