Author Topic: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
nancyallen 
Registered: Nov '07
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Date Posted: 6/4 4:01pm Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
Darky5K posted:
Damn, that was kinda funny.


Ya gotta admit he's pretty damn close to an accurate portrayal though. It would rock him, no danger of that.

xx_Anakin_xx posted:
I think by that late date Vader would look at Luke and say: "Who?"


Not so. Remember Vader's meditation chamber? He thinks of Padme there. Check his Wookiepedia page for a comic scan.

 

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Cellist 
Registered: Jul '03
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Date Posted: 6/4 5:13pm Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
mojodaddy posted:
If Vader were to do what is consistant with his character, I think that would push him over the edge. He would quickly murder Luke with his bare hands, son or no.


This is all I keep picturing:


"Why, you little...!"

 

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GrandAdmiral_Frank 
Registered: Aug '03
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Date Posted: 6/13 3:31am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
How would Luke know about Padme?

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 6/13 9:13pm Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
He wouldn't, he didn't. Lucas probably didn't even know the name when writing ROTJ. This thread is just an attempt to connect PT to OT, and thus making the movies more sappy. Darth Vader would've been pissed at Luke bringing up Padme, seeing as Luke didn't know her and never seemed very concerned with his mother. He was all about daddy.

 

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Jedi_Master_Cazz 
Registered: Sep '05
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Date Posted: 6/14 4:19am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?" - Date Edited: 6/14 4:21am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Master_Cazz
I've actually always wondered this myself. But not about Luke bringing it up, he's a smart boy, and no doubt knows Vader's habits, hell, he's experienced them.

I think the real question hear is, why did Luke suddenly, out of the blue, ask Leia about her mother, then suddenly, into the blue, never follow it up with dear dad? confused It's a redundant question because it isn't followed up.

It seems like it was a possible pathway to Vader's redemption that George was experimenting on? He just decided on something else and forgot that Luke's random line was still in the script when he handed it in. plain

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 6/14 11:30am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
I think Luke was curious as to knowing about his mother without exactly telling Leia then and there they were siblings. He assumed [as did we all back then] that Leia actually got the chance to live with his mother for a short time, atleast longer then Luke.

I don't think Lucas ever planned on adding Padme to the script back then, seeing as TPM wasn't even fully dreamt up yet.

 

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nancyallen 
Registered: Nov '07
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Date Posted: 6/15 12:33am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
Wasn't it? I understood he at least had a fair idea for a nine part series, but on the question itself, Luke probably knew the galaxy would burn with Vader's rage, given how much grief he evidently still feels over Padme.



Don't ask about when this is as I don't know, but this is clearly the meditation chamber from ESB.

 

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JediMasterLego 
Registered: Apr '08
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Date Posted: 6/15 1:29am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
nancyallen posted:
Wasn't it? I understood he at least had a fair idea for a nine part series, but on the question itself, Luke probably knew the galaxy would burn with Vader's rage, given how much grief he evidently still feels over Padme.



Don't ask about when this is as I don't know, but this is clearly the meditation chamber from ESB.


I DEFINITELY agree with nancyallen. Vader (even though Vader considered himself "Vader" now and not "Anakin", though they were one and the same person/physical-body) STILL thought about Padme, REGARDLESS of what anyone says. Remember that his key/prime reason[/choice] for joining the Dark side was, "to save Padme from death". Specifically, the "Death" he 'forsaw' in his nightmares while sleeping (which were pretty much, Force-induced visions of a possible future). This was one of the things that Palpatine used to lure Anakin to the Dark side (damn bastard Captain Panaka had told Palpatine that Padme and Anakin were married!!!).

I don't know but I think that, at the very least, Anakin[/Vader] would be "regretting his decisions[/choices]" of turning-to-the-Dark-side-of-the-Force, because his only reasons for doing so ended up being a total waste because 'Padme died anyway'. He had nothing left to live for except his stupid service to Palpatine.

If he (as Vader AND/OR as ANAKIN) 'LOVED' Padme as much as he did, I'm imagining that (if Luke DID bring Padme up to Anakin/Vader and ask him "and what about the name Padme?!" after Anakin/Vader scoffs about his own name saying "THAT NAME no longer has any meaning for me!!!" I imagine that) Anakin/Vader WOULD have shown [at least] SOME remorse about his actions and probably lost his composure for a minute or two (considering he, as Vader (AND, as ANAKIN), loved Padme so much [and so dearly]).

 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 6/15 9:27am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
I don't think it was Panaka who told him, but rather someone in the Naboo clergy.

 

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Jedi_Master_Cazz 
Registered: Sep '05
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Date Posted: 6/17 9:38am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
I think Palpatine just knew. Sure, he probably got all the goss from Amidala's tightest inner circle. I mean, Palpatine is a politician, but he's also a kriffin' Sith Lord! plain

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JediMasterLego 
Registered: Apr '08
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Date Posted: 6/17 1:09pm Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
Arawn_Fenn posted:
I don't think it was Panaka who told him, but rather someone in the Naboo clergy.


I read somewhere that it was Panaka who told Palpatine. I read it in several places actually; I think one of them was Wookiepedia.

 

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adx 
Registered: Sep '07
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Date Posted: 6/18 12:13pm Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
I don't think you can begin to speculate because Luke would not have known padme so therefore this situation would be ret-con and could never happen.

 

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Master_EdgeCrusher 
Registered: Dec '05
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Date Posted: 6/18 7:39pm Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
I totally agree. Who told Luke his mothers name? All he said to Leia, I never knew who my mother was, and she said something of I remember her smile, but what at 2 hours old? I just do not think that would work, and yeah if Luke found out from Obi Wan, it may put Vader in a rage

 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 6/21 12:30pm Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
JediMasterLego posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
I don't think it was Panaka who told him, but rather someone in the Naboo clergy.


I read somewhere that it was Panaka who told Palpatine. I read it in several places actually; I think one of them was Wookiepedia.


It was discussed in the ROTS novel.

 

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JediMasterLego 
Registered: Apr '08
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Date Posted: 6/24 5:43am Subject: RE: What would have happened if Luke Skywalker (in ROTJ) told Vader "what about the name Padme?"
either way, like nancyallen said, Anakin (even as "Vader") STILL thought of Padme, even as a Sith Lord.

it's very clear (in all the source material: novels, comics, paperback books, the Episode-3 movie, etc) that Anakin clearly just turned to the Dark side, to save Padme's life. (But what really ticks me off is that the idiot didn't even SEE that Palpatine didn't really care about Padme; He just wanted Anakin [as a Sith]).

 

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