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Am I the only one who finds Anakin's death as sad?
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Chico_Jedi
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5/24 1:10pm
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Where is the Netherworld described in the EU?
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black_saber
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5/24 1:29pm
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I find it Sad that Padme and Anakin are not together again. Who cares what some the EU says.
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TwiLekJedi
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5/24 2:00pm
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what did the EU do to Padme? It'd be to blame if it made her Force sensitive, which seems to be a requirement for the whole "coming back" thing...
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JEDIGUNSHIP
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5/25 7:36pm
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It is emotional, because Vader is redeemed when he dies. Now, if he were still a mechanical monster, then no one would feel sympathy for him.
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Darky5K
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5/26 5:19pm
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I forgot which books it's in, but several Rogue Squadron pilots are described to be as ghosts, the story about Lak Sivrak and Dice Ibegon describe them watching the victory celebration on Endor, and Denin and Villa are said to be trained by Yoda in the Netherworld. It's described as a foggy place where one can hardly see.
Then we have Chaos for the Dark Siders, where it says madness consumes the villains.
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MistrX
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5/28 4:43pm
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You mean "Go my son, leave me" and "tell your sister you were right about me"? No, you are not the only one.
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Chico_Jedi
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5/29 7:41am
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I think it would suck making Padme a Jedi / Force Sensitive. Not only it's lame to have all major character being somehow connected with the Force, but it also adds to the tragedy of the Anakin+Padme love story that they are literaly from two different world and belong in totally different places, not only in life but in death. It's a great bonus to the tragic story in my opinion.
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xx_Anakin_xx
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5/29 9:16am
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There is that whole bit when Anakin comes back as a Force Ghost before Leia and tells her he may not be able to return because 'things are changing here' - which made the netherworld sound organized like it was another world completely and Anakin was just able to visit the old world. But subsequent authors have retconned that and you have the 'blurry' netherworld with Yoda teaching and later Jedi proclaiming how lucky they are in comparison to non force sensitives because they get to live eternally...goes on and on. Frankly, I made my own up that I like. Gives everyone a happy ending and that is why I was not sad for Anakin or any other Jedi who died. For my part, Anakin needed a new start, so I wasn't particularly interested of what became of Padme; she always seemed like an anchor weighing him down (and visa versa).
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Chico_Jedi
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6/12 4:27pm
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Another tricky thing about netherworld came up in the beginning of Heir to the Empire when Obi-Wan tells Luke he can't appear to him anymore. I always wondered why is that. 
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DarthButt
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6/12 5:03pm
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That, and why Obi-Wan gave him a recipe for... hot chocolate? 
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Arawn_Fenn
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6/12 5:26pm
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Chico_Jedi posted:
Another tricky thing about netherworld came up in the beginning of Heir to the Empire when Obi-Wan tells Luke he can't appear to him anymore. I always wondered why is that.
Well, there may be in-universe and OOU explanations for that. Zahn was prohibited from using characters killed off in the films, I believe. In-universe, I think it has been retconned that Obi-Wan wanted Luke to function independently for a while.
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GrandAdmiral_Frank
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6/13 3:26am
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I feel just as sad for Luke because he went and did the impossible and only spent minutes with his father, at least he got that though. There is no death, only the Force.
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Chico_Jedi
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6/13 9:48am
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Arawn_Fenn posted:
In-universe, I think it has been retconned that Obi-Wan wanted Luke to function independently for a while.
For a while? So did Obi-Wan appear again? (My knowledge of EU has some gaps since there are some books I didn't manage to read)
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Arawn_Fenn
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Me too, but I got this from Wookiepedia:
Luke would only hear his ghostly mentor's voice again during his son's birth, a son he named Ben to honor Kenobi's memory, and again when watching the living planet Zonama Sekot leave at the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War. Kenobi said, "She's leaving", to which Luke told Mara, "Ben's words, not mine."
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KennethMorgan
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6/26 6:38pm
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I found the moment of death itself sad, as in what might have been. All those years that were wasted and how they only truly meet as father and son until Ani's about to die. That makes the Force Ghost scene all the more statisfying.
And I'd have to think that Padme and even Shmi are waiting for him on the other side. After all, since the Force is created by Life itself, then everyone is Force sensitive to one extent or another. It's selfless love that's the key to true immortailty, not some arcane technique. I figure Qui-Gon just taught Yoda and Ben how to open themselves to it, while Ani had the secret from the start, but forgot it until the end.
Well, that's how I see it, anyway...
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