Author Topic: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
Darthbane2007 
Registered: Oct '07
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Date Posted: 5/30 11:20pm Subject: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force? - Date Edited: 5/30 11:32pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Darthbane2007
You know, I just started thinking about this.

Why did Obi-Wan and Yoda only focus on Luke to train in the ways of the Jedi, and not Leia? Sure, she was the last hope if something was to happen to luke, but to me it seems pretty odd that they would put all their effort into one sibling, and not the other.

Also, try to give a In-Universe explanation.


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heathdaniel 
Registered: Sep '04
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Date Posted: 5/30 11:28pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
I think it's just the way things worked out. Luke brought R2 and the message to Obi-Wan, who, naturally, started to train him. Yoda just completed that training that was already started. Had Leia successfully reached Obi-Wan first, without Luke, he probably would have trained her, then. That, and a female action-hero Jedi wouldn't have been received as well in the 1970s/1980s as it would be today.

 

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TBL2260 
Registered: May '08
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Date Posted: 5/31 5:24am Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
In-universe answer.......One of them was given to a Jedi to watch. The other wasn't.

 

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rumsmuggler 
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 5/31 7:27am Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force? - Date Edited: 5/31 8:16am (2 edits total) Edited By: rumsmuggler
I guess it was assumed that Luke would train her in the ways of the Jedi after ROTJ, and he sorta did. The EU managed to frak that up big time. She was on the right track in The Thrawn trilogy, and the Dark Empire series, but it seemed that every other author after those works bounced back and forth on her Jediness until a few years ago. I guess the authors thought that she couldn't be the chancellor of the galaxy and a Jedi at the same time, so Leia(or the authors writing her), chose to neglect her Jedi skills.

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 5/31 10:21am Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
I agree with heathdaniel, it was somewhat of a race of the force. If Leia had never got intercepted by Darth Vader and she made it to Obi Wan first, she might have been trained.

Also, it was just standard that the man was the hero and the woman was the damsel in distress back then. Thats just how things were written.

 

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mjerome3 
Registered: May '00
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Date Posted: 5/31 12:34pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
We hear in Epsiode III Kenobi saying that he would watch over Luke and Senator Organa saying that he would take the girl and adopt her. Unless there was a Jedi on Alderran somewhere, then the likelihood of Leia being trained was very slim. Luke had Obi-Wan watching over him from the time he was born.

 

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darth_treyvah 
Registered: Dec '05
Date Posted: 5/31 12:57pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
Well, I think it was for the same reason why both were not trained in the Force from a very young age. If both of them had been trained, with the same Force potential as Anakin, the Sith would have sensed them miles away. As it was, Obi-Wan did not start training Luke until much later in his life, when A New Hope begins. Not to mention that Obi-Wan and Yoda had to keep themselves hidden from Jedi hunters, and I think they did not want to train more old guard Jedi -- like the Younglings of the Old Republic. As for Leia, she was already surrounded by the guardianship of an entire planetary government, and politics. Training her would have made her a lot more noticeable a target for the Imperial regime. Force-sensitivity is one thing, but focussed and trained Force-sensitivity is something else entirely. This is assuming, of course, that the Jedi themselves did not know how to cloak their presences with the Force.

And later, she was very much involved in politics to pursue the path of the Jedi. Of course, I also agree with the idea that she really should have been trained, and that the writers should have developed that in some way. In the end, it did happen, but still ... I do also see that Leia had another destiny apart from that of her brother. It's kind of like asking why Luke was not trained in politics. Different paths. I am glad though that Leia has learned to tap into her Force potential. happy



 

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JEDIGUNSHIP 
Registered: May '08
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Date Posted: 5/31 1:44pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
Luke had expressed interest in becoming a Jedi, while Leia had been a diplomatic representative who had never actually known Ob-Wan or Yoda.

 

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FirBholg 
Registered: May '02
Date Posted: 5/31 2:57pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
Leia was the adopted daughter of a very high-profile senator, who would have been very much under the Emperor's eye. Training her in childhood was clearly impossible. By the time she was an adult, she was a senator herself and very much under surveillance - as her capture in the opening scenes of Episode IV attest.

One twin was given something like the upbringing she would have had as her mother's daughter. The other was raised by his father's stepbrother, in the same general environment that produced Anakin, if in different circumstances.

Obi-Wan had the opportunity to observe Luke as he grew, albeit from a distance. Luke's exploits as a bush-pilot were well known in his part of Tatooine. His dedication to his family would be both a point in his favor and a warning sign of Anakin-like attachments.

So Obi-Wan decided to begin Luke's training as soon as events required. Leia by this point was beyond his immediate reach.

 

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zeekveerko 
Registered: Apr '02
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Date Posted: 5/31 4:22pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
The Jedi order was completely discredited at the end of episode 3. They became outlaws. If Leia had been trained in the force she would have drawn the attention of the emperor through normal channels--people snitching.

 

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Darth_Davi 
Registered: Jul '05
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Date Posted: 6/2 10:19am Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
Isn't this topic already covered in multiple threads?

 

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DRush76 
Registered: Jan '08
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Date Posted: 6/4 9:34am Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
mjerome3 posted:
We hear in Epsiode III Kenobi saying that he would watch over Luke and Senator Organa saying that he would take the girl and adopt her. Unless there was a Jedi on Alderran somewhere, then the likelihood of Leia being trained was very slim. Luke had Obi-Wan watching over him from the time he was born.



There were a group of former Jedi that had formed a community on Alderaan. The reason the Empire had never spotted them was that Alderaanians had never allowed any of their Force-talented children to be taken by the Jedi during the Old Republic.

 

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Jedi_Master_Cazz 
Registered: Sep '05
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Date Posted: 6/14 5:33am Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
I always thought it was because Leia (in my eyes) was much more like Anakin than Luke. Her personality leans towards Anakin, Luke's leans towards Padmé.

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Chico_Jedi 
Registered: Apr '08
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Date Posted: 6/17 5:10am Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?

I think its the same way Luke didnt. It was dangerous and people using the Force had a greater probability of being detected by the Empire. Later on, she did have some training, but also more important duties, like being the New republic Chief of State.

 

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Master_EdgeCrusher 
Registered: Dec '05
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Date Posted: 6/18 7:42pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
JEDIGUNSHIP posted:
Luke had expressed interest in becoming a Jedi, while Leia had been a diplomatic representative who had never actually known Ob-Wan or Yoda.


And to add to that, here comes Jedi Leia walking by Palpatine, and he feels it........off with her head

 

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voodoopuuduu 
Registered: Mar '04
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Date Posted: 6/18 8:47pm Subject: RE: Why wasn't Leia trained in the ways of the force?
Master_EdgeCrusher posted:
JEDIGUNSHIP posted:
Luke had expressed interest in becoming a Jedi, while Leia had been a diplomatic representative who had never actually known Ob-Wan or Yoda.


And to add to that, here comes Jedi Leia walking by Palpatine, and he feels it........off with her head


And add to that, would Yoda like a Princess/Senator trudging all over his swamp in Dagobah ? tongue

 

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