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An easier way to rescue Han?
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_Sublime_Skywalker_
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May '04
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Date Posted:
7/2 6:52pm
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RE: An easier way to rescue Han?
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Darth Vader knew who Han was, and knew where he was going; in the end there was nothing really illegal about it. Han had messed with the wrong guys and avoiding paying them back. The Rebels attacking Jabba's palace could be spun in different angles and they could lose their supporters.
On the other hand, I wonder if Vader knew WHY Han owed Jabba money. I wonder how he'd feel if he learned that Han was smuggling cargo and spice and dropping it at the first sign of a Star Destroyer.
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rumsmuggler
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7/2 8:07pm
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Boba and Vader have a professional relationship, and Vader can read minds if he wants to.
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HemDazon90
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7/14 6:02pm
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rsterling78 posted:
Darth Dark Helmet posted:
When you're fighting against an evil dictatorship who rules through, using fear to get what you want is not usually a good PR move.
That would come as quite a surprise to the French Resistance during World War II who bombed Nazi rail lines and assassinated German officers. Nor was this a bad PR move:
"Throughout France the Resistance had been of inestimable value in the campaign. Without their great assistance the liberation of France would have consumed a much longer time and meant greater losses to ourselves."
-General Dwight Eisenhower
or the good ol ira
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Indyman
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7/15 7:33am
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Well, it was good for a movie plot for one thing. And it proved out much Leia loved Han.
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Nichtganz
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7/15 8:40pm
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I disagree, youd think three rebel commandos wouldnt be too hard to ask for. If you cant even spare a few men, good **** luck beating the empire.
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-Ace-
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7/16 1:28am
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Your plan doesn't make any sense. You don't rescue a hostage by blowing up the building he's in. Also the rebel's had enough enemies without adding the Hutt Clans to the list.
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Mysterious_Assassin
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7/16 5:04am
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-Ace- posted:
Your plan doesn't make any sense. You don't rescue a hostage by blowing up the building he's in. Also the rebel's had enough enemies without adding the Hutt Clans to the list.
Operation Nimrod in London showed that Special Forces do rescue hostages by blowing up or storming the building (albeit not on the scale of destroying the whole building!), so the idea does have some merit. However I think the idea of a crack team of Rebel commandos blasting their way in to execute the rescue would be a more engaging story than just blasting Jabba's Palace from orbit which is just sheer laziness! Leia could have told Han that she loved him once he'd been rescued and was recovering on the medical frigate. If the commandos were dressed as Imperial Stormtroopers, this would make the Hutts think the Empire were responsible, so the rebels wouldn't make enemies of the Hutts. Then the Hutts could have joined the rebellion and help destroy the Imperial Fleet by jumping on them and crushing them with their excessive weight.
Which actually raises the question - presumably the rebels did make enemies of the Hutts by rescuing Han anyway, or did no-one survive the Great Pit of Carkoon battle to point the finger at the rebels for killing Jabba? Or did the Hutts not care? Especially since the rebels overthrew the Empire?
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DarthApocalypse
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7/16 11:51pm
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The Rebels aren't going to blast their way in to rescue Han because they don't want to attract unnecessary attention. If they tried a frontal assault then Jabba would simply alert the Empire, which would lead to needless casualties. And I don't believe dressing up like Stormtroopers work either. The Rebels would have to find a way to isolate some Stormtroopers, kill them and steal their armor without anybody knowing. Even if they could pull all that off I doubt Jabba would believe the deception.
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Legend_of_Leroy
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7/17 7:41am
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They probably underestimated jabba, they thought they could pull it off with just the plan with leia, but when it failed they just sent in the jedi which was more than enough to rescue Han as they managed to kill jabba and defeat boba fett as well.
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Vortigern99
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7/17 12:57pm
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RE: An easier way to rescue Han?
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REBELS V. JABBA: A ten minute mini-movie, or STAR WARS EPISODE 5.75: BEYOND THE SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE
EXT. SPACE -- TATOOINE
The Rebels make a show of force in orbit over Tatooine. 27 Rebel ships, drawn away from the strategic rendevous at Sullis, take up positions with their ion cannons and planetsmashing turbolasers aimed at the insignificantly tiny structure known as Jabba's Palace.
Princess Leia messages the Hutt. "Give us Han. We'll give you 80 zillion credits and also his ship, the Millennium Falcon."
Jabba sends a message back. "Dae wanna wonga. I'm rich enough as it is. Go screw."
Leia waits 5 minutes before issuing another missive. "Give us Han or we'll blast your house, your henchmen and your entire organization into so much sunbaked dust. You have 20 minutes."
Jabba sends a message back. "Dae wanna wa-go. Do your worst. If you blow up my palace, Han will die too, and you'll never have any chance to rescue him in some sort of covert, Jedi-directed operation, resulting in my death and the annihilation of the machinery of my syndicate, and the safe reclamation of your ex-scoundrel boyfriend."
Leia gives the order to fire up the turbolasers and charge the ion capacitors. 15 minutes pass... 17... 18 1/2.... She begins the countdown, eerily similar to the one in the first movie involving the Death Star and her shattered homeworld. The look of regret, of emotional agony, is written on her face. What else can she do? It's too late to devise some sort of covert, Jedi-directed operation, resulting in Jabba's death and the annihilation of the machinery of his syndicate, and the safe reclamation of her ex-scoundrel boyfriend. Far too late for that.
She gives the order to fire... when suddenly, a fleet of Imperial Star Destroyers appears on the radar screen! That nefarious Jabba the Hutt must have called them in from some nearby hyperspace locale, where they were waiting in the event of just such a Rebel assault! The Imperials are not close enough to fire on the Rebel fleet, but if Leia spends the next 30 seconds to a minute barraging the Tatooine surface with ionic blasts, the Imperial ships will certainly have caught up to the Rebels' position! Even if the Imperials are only partially susccessful, putting a few precious rebel vessels out of commission or (gasp!) destroying a few of them outright, the Imperials will have compromised the enormous Rebel effort that has been amassing for months: a planned attack on the still-secret Death Star II!
Leia calls off the attack on the Palace, and aims the cannons and turbolasers at the on-coming Imperial vessels instead. They fire, blasting a few ships out of the sky before the Rebels are able to turn tail and flee, jumping into hyperspace, heading back to the Rebel rendezvous at Sullus.
Leia hangs her head in regret. There can be no covert rescue ops now, Jedi-directed or otherwise. Jabba will be expecting it. They'll never get in, never rescue Han, never put him into a command position where he is likely to, say, dismantle the shield of the DSII, allowing a team of fighters to enter the core of the space station and blow it up from the inside. Never!!! Boo hoo. The Rebels lose. THE END.
Iris out. Music up. Roll credits.
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DarthApocalypse
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7/17 2:46pm
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Straight hilarious Vortigern 
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