Author Topic: Nature of the Jedi Purge
Kazanova 
Registered: Jun '08
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Date Posted: 7/6 10:57pm Subject: Nature of the Jedi Purge - Date Edited: 7/6 11:07pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Kazanova
Watching the movies, it's hard for me to imagine Darth Vader hunting down PT-energetic Jedi all over the galaxy and engaging them in duels. The Expanded Universe has him doing this, but we're basically dealing with two different interpretations of a character.

My Vader is backed by a squadron of the most highly-trained troopers during his hunts. He's not a duelist, but a strategist. His suit doesn't allow for much mobility, so he has to utilize his mind more than ever while hunting the Jedi. He probably didn't even ignite his Sith lightsaber until encountering Obi-Wan in ANH. It makes that fight have a lot more depth.

What's the G-Canon of it?

What's your personalized fanon?

What do you infer from the movies alone?

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HemDazon90 
Registered: Mar '08
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Date Posted: 7/7 12:54am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
he had an uber apprentice he died tho

 

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jedi_master_ousley 
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Date Posted: 7/7 1:10am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge - Date Edited: 7/7 1:10am (1 edits total) Edited By: jedi_master_ousley
Oh no, you said the "c" word!

I can certainly picture him hunting down the remaining Jedi and killing them. After his turn to the dark side, what better way to vent his anger than to go around killing all the Jedi that he felt betrayed him?

 

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Kazanova 
Registered: Jun '08
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Date Posted: 7/7 1:31am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
jedi_master_ousley posted:
Oh no, you said the "c" word!

I can certainly picture him hunting down the remaining Jedi and killing them. After his turn to the dark side, what better way to vent his anger than to go around killing all the Jedi that he felt betrayed him?


What better way indeed. The question is how. I think he used troopers.

 

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jedi_master_ousley 
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Date Posted: 7/7 1:39am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
Personally, I see it as a very private thing for him. In the films, he generally has troops with him - unless he's about to face Obi-Wan or Luke in battle, then he's very much alone. I personally picture the years between the films in much the same way. He faces Jedi opponents alone, while having backup from the troops for any other occasion.

 

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TaradosGon 
Registered: Feb '03
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Date Posted: 7/7 8:02am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
All that is said in the films is that he helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights, not that he did it single handedly. He probably helped with tracking the Jedi down, but I somehow doubt he engaged them in duels.

 

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General Kenobi 
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Date Posted: 7/7 8:53am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
I think that most, if not all of the Jedi were killed at the time of Order 66 at the end of the Clone Wars.

Despite what Dark Lord or other EU sources say. tongue

 

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GrandAdmiral_Frank 
Registered: Aug '03
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Date Posted: 7/7 9:47am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
Read Dark Lord and you realize that Vader is not outgunned in anyway. What's even cooler is that in that book he is just beginning to tap into his potential.

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 7/7 11:50am Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
It doesn't really matter with Darth Vaders physical state, he's still stronger in the force then most of the other Jedi. Like another poster said, what better way to unleash his anger and gain more and more power within the darkside.

The PT energetic Jedi may have been doing backflips and stuff, but every strike they gave Vader would be able to block, parry and kill.

 

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Kazanova 
Registered: Jun '08
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Date Posted: 7/7 1:20pm Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge - Date Edited: 7/7 1:21pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Kazanova
_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
It doesn't really matter with Darth Vaders physical state,


It matters. He's constricted in the suit, his power is permanently diminished, and he has to reconstruct everything about himself to survive.

If not, then having a suited Darth Vader was a meaningless plot point.

He payed a great price for his arrogance on Mustafar.

_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
The PT energetic Jedi may have been doing backflips and stuff, but every strike they gave Vader would be able to block, parry and kill.


In the EU, sure. What in the movies implies this?

 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 7/7 3:11pm Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
General Kenobi posted:
I think that most, if not all of the Jedi were killed at the time of Order 66 at the end of the Clone Wars.

Despite what Dark Lord or other EU sources say. tongue


I think Dark Lord ( and some of the other EU ) would be consistent with your statement; they're not depicting a huge amount of Jedi still around. "Most" Jedi being killed in Order 66 still seems accurate.

 

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jedi_master_ousley 
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Date Posted: 7/7 4:13pm Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
Right, there were just a few left. Perhaps those on vacation or sick leave at the time of Order 66. wink

 

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GrandAdmiral_Frank 
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Date Posted: 7/7 6:46pm Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
Darth Vader can hurl his lightsaber with the Force and control its direction. Darth Vader can hover. Darth Vader can deflect blaster shots with his hand. Darth Vader has a Super Star Destroyer. Darth Vader has the voice of James Earl Jones.

 

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TaradosGon 
Registered: Feb '03
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Date Posted: 7/7 6:53pm Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge - Date Edited: 7/7 6:55pm (1 edits total) Edited By: TaradosGon
Well, in giving the developers of The Force Unleashed instructions, Lucas apparently describes other Jedi beside Yoda and Obi-Wan surviving Order 66. So, it appears that even though Luke is the only Jedi left by the end of ROTJ, that doesn't mean that all the survivors of Order 66 were dead by then. Lucas describes them as either taking up unassuming lives as moisture farmers (etc.) or even becoming adventurous pirates. I don't know how many Jedi survived Order 66, but not all those that survived Order 66 continued to be Jedi, many turned their backs on that life, just as Jedi in KOTOR II did after the Jedi Civil War.

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_Sublime_Skywalker_ 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 7/7 9:14pm Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
Kazanova posted:


_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
The PT energetic Jedi may have been doing backflips and stuff, but every strike they gave Vader would be able to block, parry and kill.


In the EU, sure. What in the movies implies this?


The fact that's he's the chosen one, the most powerful force user ever and was already an excellent saber artist. Sure, he may be more robotic and his power may have diminished, but Jedi wouldn't be hiding if they could take him on. As years go by, he gets more and more used to his suit and better trained within the ways of the darkside and keeps practicing his lightsaber skill.

 

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jedi_master_ousley 
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Date Posted: 7/7 9:23pm Subject: RE: Nature of the Jedi Purge
I'm sure he didn't just sit around feeling sorry for himself.

 

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