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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 7/15/08 11:19am Subject: The Death of Han Solo - Date Edited: 7/15/08 11:20am (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
	As most people who follow Star Wars with, shall we say, more of a passion than others know, Harrison Ford tried to get George Lucas to kill off Han Solo at the end of Return of the Jedi. Ford said that he thought the character itself was relatively thin and that he would have liked to see more complication. The only one he didn’t get, he said, was to die at the end of the third movie. Some also felt that this would have added more weight to the film as well as give it a bottom, and it would have been more realistic as a war movie. It also would have allowed the character to show more of that really lone wolf quality that he had exhibited over the films. So, here’s my question to you: do you think that Han Solo should have died? If so, what should the circumstances have been? How would the story of his death have worked? How would he have died? Who would have killed him? Etc. Etc. Etc. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One (my fan fic) http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/30225011/p1/?3
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GrandAdmiral_Frank Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 7/15/08 1:28pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	I thought he wanted George to kill off Han at the end of TESB? I know Lando's death scene was filmed so that he wouldn't make it out of the second Death Star but everyone decided with the level of evil the Emperor brought it would be too dark. I think if Spielberg could have done it he would have allowed that to happen. -----signature----- Member of the Han Solo and Chewbacca FanClub Member of the TFF Winner of the PT Rewrite Challenge Four "Don't make me destroy you"-Darth Vader, The Empire Strikes Back
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_Sublime_Skywalker_ Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 7/15/08 2:41pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	I'm half and half on this issue. I'm glad overall that Han didn't die, because he's a great character and tons of fans adore him. It would've been more realistic if Han did die, because it's war and he's a wanted man, but having him live isn't any less realistic then spaceships, lightsabers, the force and millions of different alien species. It would've made the movie a little more deep, and would've really given Han more depth. I think if he was going to die, it would be a sacrifice for the Rebellion. It would show the transformation of Han from ANH- greedy self centered smuggler to Han Solo ESB/ROTJ- Hero. In the end, I'm glad that everything worked out the way it is, Star Wars had enough darkness with the Empire and with Anakin sacrificing himself, it needs a balance of light too. Han was a humourous character, and he was the slick man's man. -----signature----- 'You don't know the Power of the Darkside!'-Darth Vader
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DarthButt Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 7/15/08 3:44pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	Interesting thread, Brandon. It's really hard to say on this. From a movie aspect alone, I can definitely see how this would have impacted them for the better. It would have had a more emotional impact on the story than was already there. It would have made ROTJ a darker film, and perhaps that alone would have put it up with the ranks of ESB as far as being a more dramatic movie. Add Han's death to the mix of Vader's death/redemption, and that's some good stuff, as long as Han didn't go out like a chump. But then on the other side of the coin, a hell of a lot of EU has been based on the fact that Han lives. I'm sure the authors could have come up with something else, but they all seemed to really jump on the Han/Leia relationship, and they ran with it. The last 25 years of SW in print would have been completely different - which I'm not sure if that would be a bad thing. But it was certainly something that could make for many stories.
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Bacon164 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 7/15/08 4:17pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	He should have been killed off at the end of the first act. it would have provided a horrible sense of dread to the rest of the film. it also puts the twins alone together. -----signature----- Like a falling leaf to the bottom of the sea there she goes there she goes. My mentor Andalite_Bandit taught me this but it is too long to quote here so I can't tell you.
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DarthButt Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 7/15/08 5:43pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	For once, you posted something brilliant while being serious, Bacon! Oh how they've grown. A dramatic death in Jabba's palace or in the fight there-after would be more powerful in the story. Yes, you're right, Bacon, it gives for the oportunity for the twins to be together, but then also, it would add to Leia's character throughout the rest of the film.
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darthramza Registered: Jul '08	Date Posted: 7/15/08 5:44pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	Bacon164 posted: He should have been killed off at the end of the first act. it would have provided a horrible sense of dread to the rest of the film. I believe there was someone (a producer?) who actually proposed this idea for that exact reason. Personally, though, I would have had foul memories of Star Wars if Han had died. I mean, they had already killed off Darth Vader and Admiral Piett (both of whom were some of my favorite characters). I can only take so much loss. -----signature----- "Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves." - Revolver Ocelot GDG, GMG, CDG, D.E.N.T.A.L. VP Ever Lovin' DM of the Saga of the Nameless Lands Extremely Unofficial Caretaker of Jocasta Nu's
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Mysterious_Assassin Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 7/16/08 6:03am Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	From a purely selfish point of view, if Han had been killed, I could have married Leia....mmmmmmmmmmm! -----signature----- "Don't try rules cos they do not apply!"
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xx_Anakin_xx Registered: Jan '08	Date Posted: 7/16/08 9:01am Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	I don't see the point in killing off Han. Tons of people died in Star Wars from PT to OT - we really didn't require any more deaths - especially hero deaths. We lost yoda, ben, anakin/vader, the emperor, Tarkin, numerous clones (which most people didn't care about because they were like 'creations' instead of human, but for that very reason their deaths seemed very sad). Besides, Han's death would have taken away from Anakin's death and back in the day, that was the hero for GL. Even if GL himself considered Han's death, he would have been undermining Anakin's by distracting audiences from the potency of the hero-villain-hero death twist he was going after toward that of Han, who was a favorite of many. -----signature----- I say we put together a 'kill squad' and assassinate Darth Krayt. Who's with me?
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Vortigern99 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 7/16/08 9:56am Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	In this I disagree with Ford and Kasdan, and agree with Lucas, who was steadfast about keeping Han alive. I love the character, I love his relationship with Leia (though obviously it's woefully underplayed in ROTJ). I like to imagine a long and fruitful married life post-Endor, with lots of kids and co-governorship of the Rebellion, and -- of course! -- occasional forays with Chewie in the Falcon into the deep reaches of pirate-controlled space.... In any case I don't think Han's death would serve a purpose dramatically. The old chestnut about introducing fear into the audience's mind -- that if one character gets killed, any of the others could go at any moment! -- is bogus. It actually works out in the opposite way: Once one major character dies, the audience knows for a fact the rest of them are safe. The filmmakers wouldn't kill two major characters in one movie! Han's death would therefore have been gratuitous. I'm glad he lived, both from a personal emotional perspective and a broader storytelling persepctive. -----signature----- "I knew from the beginning I was not doing science fiction. I was doing a space opera, a fantasy film, a mythological piece, a fairy tale."--George Lucas My "Vader's Origins" thread: http://boards.theforce.net/Classic_Trilogy/b10002/8708417/p1
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 7/16/08 12:27pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	Then there was that point where the Marvel comics "killed" him, but had to bring him back in the following issue. -----signature----- "You're both from strange little backwater planets. You both have odd powers. You're male and she's female. What more do you need? Believe me, buddy, if I were you, I'd go right up there and ask her if she wants to ride on my rancor." - Han Solo
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Jainasolo101 Registered: Dec '07	Date Posted: 7/16/08 3:43pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	If Han did not live, in the Vong war lots of people would have lost there lives. Also they would not have been saved by his son Jacen. Then again if Jacen never lived he would not have turned to the dark side. I'm giving myself a head ache. . But I am glad he did not die. -----signature----- " Do or do not. There is no try." Jagged Fel ROCKS! Kahlan & Richard Forever
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DarthApocalypse Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 7/16/08 11:37pm Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	I'm glad Han didn't die because I can't see how the movies would be significantly improved without him. The only thing you gain is a sense of danger and foreboding, but that can easily be achieved in other ways. The benefits wouldn't be sufficient to overcome the losses. Also I can't imagine ESB without Han calling Leia "Your Worshipfulness". -----signature----- Don't take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive.
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Bacon164 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 7/17/08 12:01am Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	he was mediocre in ROTJ anyways. -----signature----- Like a falling leaf to the bottom of the sea there she goes there she goes. My mentor Andalite_Bandit taught me this but it is too long to quote here so I can't tell you.
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obi-rob-kenobi4 Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 7/17/08 10:25am Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	IMO i think plenty of characters died in ROTJ. First yoda dies witch is unbelievable to see if you are watching the saga in order and also gives you a real feeling of luke truly being the only last hope for the jedi witch makes him the last hope for the galaxy. Then the emperor dies and then vader dies. So for the overall story the only ones that did survive were the twins and han. Also if you choose to believe that boba fett died in the beginning, but i will never believe he died -----signature----- "You call THIS a diplomatic solution?" "No, I call it aggressive negotiations." so this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause..... who am I, where am I going? -Tony Soprano
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JediLight Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 7/17/08 10:57am Subject: RE: The Death of Han Solo
	My wife could barely handle Anakin turning evil in ROTS. She hates Episode III. If Solo would have died, I'd never be able to watch Star Wars with her again. -----signature----- JediLight Near Marathon on 06-09-08 (ROTJ short) Best Episodes: ROTS, ESB; Underrated: TPM; Overrated: AOTC, ANH
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