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darth_degnan Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 9/3/08 8:09pm Subject: continue the story! it can be done!
	To whomever who will listen, I love Star Wars. Just as many many people do. I want nothing more than to continue reading and watching Star Wars for many years to come. The direction of Star Wars has been in question as of late. Whether or not I agree with that assertion, I do believe that the franchise needs to take a new direction. My idea, probably someone has already though, would help take the franchise to a new level. After the Clone Wars has been finished, and the live action series is under way, Lucasfilm will once again be in the familiar place of "where do we go from here, if anywhere." I believe, and I am sure every single Star Wars fan does as well, that the story of Star Wars should not end. After Return of the Jedi was released, Star Wars fans were left to wonder what happened to Luke, Leia, Han, and everyone else from the Trilogy. Not until Timothy Zahn published Heir to the Empire did Star Wars fans have any official storyline concerning the Original Trilogy's heroes. Since Zahn's trilogy, countless novels and comics have been published. Some good, some bad, but none have come close to capturing the actual feeling that the Original Trilogy gave us like Timothy Zahn's trilogy. Zahn masterfully creates a story that takes readers to a familiar galaxy far far away. Now if Lucasfilm was to make a movie about Luke, Leia, and Han; the chance of recasting the same actors is virtually impossible. However, since Lucasfilm loves computer animation, the characters could once again be brought to the big screen, just not in the same sense. I am not talking about the recent computer animation used in The Clone Wars though. I am thinking more along the lines of the computer animation used in the Final Fantasy movie that was released a few years ago. And if possible, Lucasfilm rounds up as many of the Original Trilogy actors to do the voices. The result of this would certainly be a success. Star Wars movies are obviously a hit. Zahn's books were New York Times bestsellers. Combine both and you have an instant cash cow. If Lucasfilm was to actually go through with this idea, there are two ways it could be accomplished. Now I mean no offense by this, but what I am about to say is something that many many people/critics have stated. The writing in the most recent Star Wars releases has been amateur to say the least. If Lucasfilm would consult with Zahn, even ask him to write the script, the problem that the latest releases have been accused of would most likely be avoided. The story is there. The demand is there. Star Wars fans would absolutely love to see the Original Trilogy characters back in action. Let's not forget, the story did start with them. The story of Darth Vader has been told. Fortunately for everyone, that doesn't mean the story of Star Wars ends. Thank you for reading. -----signature----- The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. -George Orwell
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_Sublime_Skywalker_ Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/4/08 9:07am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	darth_degnan posted: Star Wars fans would absolutely love to see the Original Trilogy characters back in action. Not this one. I obviously adore Star Wars or I wouldn't be here, but this statement I disagree with. This has been discussed to death and theres always people who want more stories and those like me who just want it to be left alone, on a high note. To see Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hammil would be great again, but they've all seen better days. Plus Lucas has already got his hands full with Clone Wars and screwing up the EU there. I personally think it would be kinda boring watching Luke train a bunch of Jedi apprentices and the little scwabbles with the remnants of the Empire. -----signature----- 'You don't know the Power of the Darkside!'-Darth Vader
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 9/4/08 9:24am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	actually, if it's mostly about The Thrawn Trilogy, it's a Lit. topic if it's mostly about Eps 7-9 or anything like that, it's uh... I forgot where we put those... Saga or SWC? If it's mostly about new CT-era material, it's awfully close to this -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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darth_degnan Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 9/4/08 9:38am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	so where should we post this? -----signature----- The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. -George Orwell
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darth_degnan Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 9/4/08 9:43am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	I think you missed the point Sublime... Because the OT actors have seen better days, I suggested computer animation (the computer animation used in the Final Fantasy movie). "I personally think it would be kinda boring watching Luke train a bunch of Jedi apprentices and the little scwabbles with the remnants of the Empire." That isn't what happens. Maybe you should read the books before you get so critical. -----signature----- The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. -George Orwell
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 9/4/08 9:43am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	I thought you'd clarify your intent right now I'm leaning towards Lit -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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_Sublime_Skywalker_ Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/4/08 11:46am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	darth_degnan posted: I think you missed the point Sublime... Because the OT actors have seen better days, I suggested computer animation (the computer animation used in the Final Fantasy movie). "I personally think it would be kinda boring watching Luke train a bunch of Jedi apprentices and the little scwabbles with the remnants of the Empire." That isn't what happens. Maybe you should read the books before you get so critical. Well, actually I've read alot of EU. In Darksaber by Kevin J Anderson [same guy who did the Thrawn books] that's exactly what happens. Daala kills the Imperial warlords, steals their military and goes into an all out battle with the Rebels. Luke trains some Jedi, like Kyp Durron and Streen and Dorsk 81, he marries Mara Jade. I think the OT characters in computer animation would be cheesy, Clone Wars pulled it off because so much of the movies were already CGI. OT should be preserved, before Lucas seriously ***'s it up. I can guarantee I've probably read alot more of the EU then you, and I say this with all due respect- it's EU for a reason. The SW movies are* about Anakin Skywalker and when he dies it's done. EU is a blessing in my opinion, and I'd love to see the Thrawn trilogy as a TV show- at most but no movies. -----signature----- 'You don't know the Power of the Darkside!'-Darth Vader
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Darthbane2007 Registered: Oct '07	Date Posted: 9/4/08 12:06pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done! - Date Edited: 9/4/08 12:12pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darthbane2007
	If ther is any story left, it's before TPM that needs to be filled. I want to see the climactic battles between hundreds of Jedi and Sith, The Great Hyperspace War, etc... See what the Jedi were like in their prime, see sith lords with their minions... The thing with doing a movie, is that technically, Luke/Leia/Han's story is done after ROTJ. we have numerous books, comics, and video games detailing their adventures after ROTJ. And what would they be doing? You would have Luke trying to find Jedi Trainees, Leia would be involved in politics helping to reestablish the government, and Han would be, well, he would just be there.
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 9/4/08 12:23pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted: Well, actually I've read alot of EU. In Darksaber by Kevin J Anderson [same guy who did the Thrawn books] Did you just say Kevin J Anderson wrote the Thrawn books? -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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darth_degnan Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 9/5/08 9:30am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	Sublime Skywalker posted: Well, actually I've read alot of EU. In Darksaber by Kevin J Anderson [same guy who did the Thrawn books] that's exactly what happens. Daala kills the Imperial warlords, steals their military and goes into an all out battle with the Rebels. Luke trains some Jedi, like Kyp Durron and Streen and Dorsk 81, he marries Mara Jade. I think the OT characters in computer animation would be cheesy, Clone Wars pulled it off because so much of the movies were already CGI. OT should be preserved, before Lucas seriously ***'s it up. I can guarantee I've probably read alot more of the EU then you, and I say this with all due respect- it's EU for a reason. The SW movies are* about Anakin Skywalker and when he dies it's done. EU is a blessing in my opinion, and I'd love to see the Thrawn trilogy as a TV show- at most but no movies. [/quote] Dude, are you for real? Kevin J. Anderson did not write the Thrawn books. You obviously have no idea what happens in those books. And clearly, you have not read more of the EU than I have. Know what you're talking about before you make such brash statements. -----signature----- The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. -George Orwell
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GrandAdmiral_Frank Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 9/5/08 11:04am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	I have thought about this for almost seven years. Star Wars is essentially for children. However...Star Wars also has adult fans now who don't necessarily need another version of TCW with the beloved OT characters. Here is what we need: 1. What happens after ROTJ is called the EU(Expanded Universe). There were books about Han and Lando and whatnot however what started it was Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy and that would be the essential starting point and it is also one of the most popular stories. 2. No CGI unless you're really willing to push the envelope and give us some amazing damn near close animation. Otherwise I would say have cartoon animation that is very detailed. 3. If you can people from the OT to do voice work, except for Carrie Fisher unless she can sound like Leia again, than that's cool but I think we can settle for voice overs from other people. 4. Don't cut out anything from the stories. Oh I know then it'll literally be another trilogy. That's the frickin' point. Give the fans more SW and if you're doing right and realistically and appealing to the older, loyal fans than it won't matter. If the theatres and movie biz people say no then market the films as a product of LFL, it will sell, especially if done well. We've seen Iron-Man, Avengers, Justice League and all just have cartoon films put on DVD. Think it won't work for SW? Yeah right. People would buy it and once it gained credibility then more and more would sell. 5. Also when I say don't cut out from the stories I also want to say don't tone it down either. 6. Jeremy Irons as Thrawn? 7. Just recycle JW music and if he wants to make a couple new themes that would be nice. 8. When we see the SW scrolling I want to see SW not Thrawn Trilogy. 9. Then if all goes well other stories can be produced. -----signature----- Member of the Han Solo and Chewbacca FanClub Member of the TFF Winner of the PT Rewrite Challenge Four "Don't make me destroy you"-Darth Vader, The Empire Strikes Back
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_Sublime_Skywalker_ Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 9/5/08 11:10am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	You're right - Timothy Zahn wrote the Thrawn books. My mind slipped there. Even then, I think EU should be kept EU. I wouldn't really wanna watch a new trilogy about Luke encountering Thrawn and the ysalamir and him not being able to use the force, and Joruus C'baoth whose twice the **** as the original Jorus. They're interesting to read, but seeing it in CGI would be cheesy IMO. -----signature----- 'You don't know the Power of the Darkside!'-Darth Vader
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darth_degnan Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 9/5/08 11:13am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	have any of you seen the computer animation in the Final Fantasy movie? it looked real. that is what I am talking about. -----signature----- The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. -George Orwell
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darth_degnan Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 9/5/08 11:16am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	nice post GrandAdmiral_Frank. -----signature----- The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. -George Orwell
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solo77 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 9/5/08 11:47am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	It's done GL has said 7, 8 and 9 will never happen. I personally am not a fan of most of the EU stuff (apart from SOTE) so really have no desire to see anything after ROTJ. Stuff before TPM would kinda be cool, but GL has lost the art imo, he didn't do the best job with the PT so not keen to seen him do anything more. -----signature-----
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JEDI-RISING Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 9/5/08 3:57pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
	The story's over with Episode 6. There was a false story that came out after ROTS that GL was going to do a Knights Of The Old Republic era story. That would be interesting to me. Like, a three hour story, Jedi vs. Sith , circa 2000 years before Star Wars. Of course we'd probably end up with a baby Yoda. -----signature----- "Mostly because of my father i guess" "Ah, father. Powerful Jedi was he ,mmm, powerful Jedi."
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