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KithuraVess  1001 posts
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Date Posted: 1/9 7:47am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done! - Date Edited: 1/9 7:49am (1 edits total) Edited By: KithuraVess
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Darthbane2007 posted:
The only way I see a future SW movie even being as remotely successful as the first 3 and to a lesser extent, the PT ( Not that I think any less of them; I like them all) is if we were to do a KOTOR like movie set during KOTOR times or the Great Sith War. A period where you had hundreds of Jedi and many Sith Lords battle it out for control of the galaxy. Characters such as Revan, Malak, Ulic Qel Droma, an other characters.


That would be awesome.
And I'm that (or movies about another "new" time frame) would be the only way of making new, good SW movies.

I just think the OT and PT are in danger of being "killed", if you know what I mean; so many books, games, etc. centre on it, and we already know mostly what happened afterwards and just before, thanks to the EU. Hammering on them even more would make it lose what mystery they retain.

Besides, a completely new series about a relatively unexplored period of time would, I think, draw new fans, instead of making people go, "Oh, great. More Luke." Not that I'm saying Luke himself is annoying or anything; I just think the average person would think it's just a ploy by Lucas to try and get more money, instead of an actual new series with a new story.

 

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Drewton  310 posts
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Date Posted: 1/10 7:48pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
The story of the 6-episode saga was about Anakin Skywalker. Anything else can be about, well, anything.

Right now, Lucas needs to listen to the critics and learn from his failures. TCW being the most notable epic failure. We as the 30-year old Star Wars fans didn't watch a dumbed-down, kiddy version of Star Wars. We saw an excellent, realistic story, that we can still like as adults today.

Why, then, does Lucas think that the new generation of Star Wars is only capable of enjoying kids' films? They'll grow out of it. And when that happens, it won't be a very bright future for Star Wars. I bet that a lot of kids who greatly enjoyed TPM when they were young realize how terrible it is now.

Because the original Star Wars wasn't just aimed at kids, there's a huge fanbase that has lasted for thirty-two years, a large majority of it being the same fans who watched the films as kids. I know that I as a kid would have loved films like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. My favourite films were ones that were "made for adults".

 

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drg4  808 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11 2:24pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
KithuraVess posted:

I just think the OT and PT are in danger of being "killed", if you know what I mean; so many books, games, etc. centre on it, and we already know mostly what happened afterwards and just before, thanks to the EU. Hammering on them even more would make it lose what mystery they retain.


Exactly. For all its flaws, Star Wars is one of the few franchises that went in with a bang (ANH) and went out just the same (ROTS). Lucas should quit while he's ahead.

 

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NeoBaggins  5602 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11 8:51pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done! - Date Edited: 1/11 8:55pm (1 edits total) Edited By: NeoBaggins
darth_degnan posted:
The direction of Star Wars has been in question as of late.


The answers are all around you. If you've seen the prequels, the 2D animated episodes, the CGI movie and the CGI series, you'll know that there are no questions. Star Wars will remain in the Clone War era until Lucas is no more and no one will be allowed to touch it. I think Lucas has a love/hate relationhip with the original star wars and the fans of that era (seemingly leaning more on the hate side). He's not keeping it all Clone Wars by accident. There's isnt even anything left to tell about the clone wars. The story isnt even advancing and nothing is being revealed. Its been reduced to a shoot'em up lightsaber show with simplistic story lines to showcase shoot'em ups and lightsaber shows. If the live-action series is about anything other than more clone wars, I will stand corrected.

Far as the original casts age, um, human beings age. Why would Han Solo and Luke look the same way they did in the first Star Wars if the movie took place years later? And Mark Hamil would still be young for a Jedi Master and most of the action would rely on the younger, newer characters anyway. People bring that up as if Alec Guiness, Christopher Lee and Ian McDiarmid have not wielded sabers and partook in action in the films already. But at the same time, I agree that Lucas should quit while he's ahead. He got away with ROTS because it was easily better than the first two prequel films and someone aparently likes the new cartoons. I guess we could leave it on an okay note. Someone else would have to write and direct new films for them to be really good and Lucas isnt going to let anyone do that.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10329 posts
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Date Posted: 1/11 9:08pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
>>>Star Wars will remain in the Clone War era until Lucas is no more and no one will be allowed to touch it.


Actually, the live action series is supposed to take place in the Dark Times.

 

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Grand_Moff_Jawa  4737 posts
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Date Posted: 1/13 12:11pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
darth_degnan posted:
To whomever who will listen,

I love Star Wars. Just as many many people do. I want nothing more than to continue reading and watching Star Wars for many years to come. The direction of Star Wars has been in question as of late. Whether or not I agree with that assertion, I do believe that the franchise needs to take a new direction. My idea, probably someone has already though, would help take the franchise to a new level.

After the Clone Wars has been finished, and the live action series is under way, Lucasfilm will once again be in the familiar place of "where do we go from here, if anywhere." I believe, and I am sure every single Star Wars fan does as well, that the story of Star Wars should not end.

After Return of the Jedi was released, Star Wars fans were left to wonder what happened to Luke, Leia, Han, and everyone else from the Trilogy. Not until Timothy Zahn published Heir to the Empire did Star Wars fans have any official storyline concerning the Original Trilogy's heroes. Since Zahn's trilogy, countless novels and comics have been published. Some good, some bad, but none have come close to capturing the actual feeling that the Original Trilogy gave us like Timothy Zahn's trilogy. Zahn masterfully creates a story that takes readers to a familiar galaxy far far away.

Now if Lucasfilm was to make a movie about Luke, Leia, and Han; the chance of recasting the same actors is virtually impossible. However, since Lucasfilm loves computer animation, the characters could once again be brought to the big screen, just not in the same sense. I am not talking about the recent computer animation used in The Clone Wars though. I am thinking more along the lines of the computer animation used in the Final Fantasy movie that was released a few years ago. And if possible, Lucasfilm rounds up as many of the Original Trilogy actors to do the voices.

The result of this would certainly be a success. Star Wars movies are obviously a hit. Zahn's books were New York Times bestsellers. Combine both and you have an instant cash cow.

If Lucasfilm was to actually go through with this idea, there are two ways it could be accomplished. Now I mean no offense by this, but what I am about to say is something that many many people/critics have stated. The writing in the most recent Star Wars releases has been amateur to say the least. If Lucasfilm would consult with Zahn, even ask him to write the script, the problem that the latest releases have been accused of would most likely be avoided.

The story is there. The demand is there. Star Wars fans would absolutely love to see the Original Trilogy characters back in action. Let's not forget, the story did start with them. The story of Darth Vader has been told. Fortunately for everyone, that doesn't mean the story of Star Wars ends.

Thank you for reading.







"They lived happily ever after."

Good enough for me. Star Wars should be left alone now, in my opinion.

 

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darth_degnan  159 posts
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Date Posted: 1/13 7:58pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
Grand_Moff_Jawa posted:


"They lived happily ever after."

Good enough for me. Star Wars should be left alone now, in my opinion.



Oh come on, that is so lame.

As for the argument that the saga is about Anakin; this may be true now, but when the OT was released, the sage was more about Luke than anyone else. Lucas' original plan was to make 9 movies, 6 of which would include Luke. There is no reason whatsoever as to why there can't be more of a story for Luke.


"Actually, the live action series is supposed to take place in the Dark Times."

I hope that the live action series takes a different path than The Clone Wars.


And to all the mentioning of a KOTR series- I completely agree.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10329 posts
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Date Posted: 1/13 8:05pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done! - Date Edited: 1/13 8:38pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
darth_degnan posted:
Grand_Moff_Jawa posted:


"They lived happily ever after."

Good enough for me. Star Wars should be left alone now, in my opinion.



Oh come on, that is so lame.


It was good enough for Lord of the Rings, it's good enough for Lord of the Rings in Space. worried

 

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Grand_Moff_Jawa  4737 posts
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Date Posted: 1/14 12:24pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done! - Date Edited: 1/14 12:54pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Grand_Moff_Jawa
darth_degnan posted:
Grand_Moff_Jawa posted:


"They lived happily ever after."

Good enough for me. Star Wars should be left alone now, in my opinion.



Oh come on, that is so lame.




What's lame is taking a movie franchise like Star Wars and beating it to death. cry

What possible plot could there be after the end of the Empire? Seeing Luke start a Jedi Academy? There's a book series for that.

Sometimes you just have to step back from something and consider it done. Finished.

Even if Lucas did make another 3 movies, they'd likely be in the style of the PT and probably bring the franchise down further. No thanks.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26471 posts
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Date Posted: 1/14 2:12pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
Here's the big problem I see, and I think most of the EU is currently suffering from this as well: anyone who goes near the Star Wars franchise feels they need to write something huge and epic and can't settle for a plotline that's light and fluffy. If there were further movies, either Lucas or whoever else was responsible for them would most likely go for something big and galaxy-shaking, and we really don't need to see things like another Emperor on film. I wouldn't want the films to go the way of post-RotJ era EU and introduce huge new wars, new villains, etc. every decade or so.

I know it's unrealistic to say that all of a sudden everything was happy and fantastic in the galaxy and a peace accord was signed the moment Palpy died, and I personally dislike that view, but I also would dislike it being cemented into canon that that ending could not be the case that some other major conflict followed shortly after RotJ. And you know mopping up what was left of Palpatine's regime and the underlings of his struggling for his throne wouldn't really be a strong enough plot to support a sequel.

 

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drg4  808 posts
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Date Posted: 1/14 2:32pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done! - Date Edited: 1/14 2:36pm (1 edits total) Edited By: drg4
darth_degnan posted:
Grand_Moff_Jawa posted:


"They lived happily ever after."

Good enough for me. Star Wars should be left alone now, in my opinion.



Oh come on, that is so lame.


It's lame, but it's also fact. ROTJ ended with the cast partying down to the tune of "Celebrate the love" with a bunch of Teddy Bears or Care Bears or whatever the heck those hairballs were called. Not a lot of ambiguity there.

Want to know what Episode VII would look like?

Luke becomes a Jedi Master.

Han gains another 30 pounds.

Leia chills out and has eight kids.

Wicket is thrown into the Toys R' Us bargain basket.

"And they lived happily ever after."

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26471 posts
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Date Posted: 1/15 2:19pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
Leia would never have eight kids! She's the epitome of a liberated woman!

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Darthbane2007  1373 posts
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Date Posted: 1/16 11:49am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
I'll be honest; there's no story after ROTJ that can sustain another Live action film. You would just have Luke training apprentices, Leia working with the government to try and patch things up, And Han being the same old Han he was from the OT.

 

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skywalkerz  79 posts
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Date Posted: 1/17 10:47pm Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
It's disappointing to hear George won't be doing a sequel trilogy. But we have to respect it.

 

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TheLionheart 
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Date Posted: 1/28 1:43am Subject: RE: continue the story! it can be done!
Firstly, if any continuation of the movies were to be done, they could use the originals for most of the roles. They would merely have to be set after x amount of time into the future. That would take care of the aging issue.

Now as for actually continuing the movies, I think it would be interesting to see what could be done. My only problem would be seeing the good name of Star Wars dragged through the mud by movies that aren't worthy of the name. Measures would have to be taken to keep with the feel of the OT so that the movies wouldn't be just one big CGI mess.

As for the EU, I think it would be interesting if separate movies were made (not continuations of RotJ) that would give fans a visual view of the rest of the Star Wars universe. But again, the writing would have to be good and it should look like a Star Wars movie should, so as to prevent the name of Star Wars from meaning something that is cinematic gold to something you would find in the bargain bin (or rubbish bin) of your local retailer.

 

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