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Stormy_74 Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 5/25 5:32pm Subject: Return of The Jedi
	the reason it is awesome is because of Lando and Ackbar!!!
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Darth_Unicorn Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 5/26 3:12pm Subject: Return of The Jedi
	I am reading a trilogy right now and Ackbar is a big part of it, and he is so much more of a badass than I originally thought. I was indifferent to him at first, but now he is on my list of badasses. Lando was already on the list.
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anakin_girl Title: Founding Member & Retired FF CR Charlotte , NC Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 5/28 12:20pm Subject: Return of The Jedi
	Luke discovering that Anakin is his father and Leia is his sister, and Vader's redemption. And the Han/Leia romance. -----signature----- Room 225, the Geriatric Ward Alternate ending to ROTS: "Chancellor, you're full of crap. This opera sucks. I'm going home to my wife."
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wako_jacko Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/12 9:58pm Subject: Return of The Jedi
	Vader returning to the lightside
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jedibri Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 6/13 4:57am Subject: Return of The Jedi
	To this day I think ROTJ has the best Dog-fight in any ST film. -----signature----- Isaiah 41:13
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Serafine_Tinaste Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 6/14 11:11am Subject: Return of The Jedi
	ROTJ is definitely the best movie of the six. It has a little bit of everything awesome in it. Boba Fett, Jabba, the whole bounty hunter/smuggler feud is portrayed, you get to learn more about the Sith and Jedi, Darth Vader/Anakin is redeemed. The characters I feel are more developed. And honestly, the Jedi funeral always makes me teary eyed. And I do like the Ewoks! But the first time I saw it was when I was like 5 so that might have something to do with it. -----signature----- Banana! Banana! Ooh! Ooh! Give it to Kiki?
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ThePriminister Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/29 1:52am Subject: Return of The Jedi
	My favorite Star Wars film. It's the one I remember watching as a kid (I'm 20), and I remember loving it. What's funny, is that I make fun of it all the time. There are some things in it that are unoriginal and silly. =D -----signature----- "Are you familiar with Yoda? From uh..Attack of the Clones?" -Officer Slater, Superbad
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Padmes_love_slave24 Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 6/29 10:17pm Subject: Return of The Jedi
	The entire movie but in particular, I love the scenes with Luke, Vader, & the Emperor in the throne room. The verabl exchanges between Luke & The Emperor are fantastic and I love the emotional duel between Luke & Vader! -----signature----- The internet you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy People who follow consensus opinions are mindless sheep! South Park SUCKS! Go Bears! LOTR=Cure for Insomnia!
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Hernalt Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 6/29 10:18pm Subject: Return of The Jedi - Date Edited: 6/29 10:24pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Hernalt
	If this is supposedly the worst of the original trilogy, I am far too blind to see why. Some object to a bigger death star; I assume it is the Emperor's special bait to bring out the Rebellion brass and capital ships - rebuilding the first would be pointless, and his presence sweetens the temptation. Some object to puppets in the Jabba sequence or any frame that has Ewoks; I hear Lucas adopted a daughter and made ROTJ friendly to children, and I would have no right to argue with his rationale or parental prerogative. Some object to the musical numbers; as far as I am aware they occur in-universe and are not externally imposed, or are imposed at the closing tableau as in the first two films. Some think the Luke and Leia sibling angle is a bridge too far; I allow it to channel Apollo and Artemis. Now, some object to the limited, light or uninspired role of Han Solo; I think Ford pulls off quite enough for a childrens film, but I definitely think some of his 'uninspired' lines should have been re-shot (Rebel briefing, Ewok evening scene after Luke leaves). Some think the "point of view" scene is incredible; I agree it is jarring and could have been reshot. Two flaws cannot be accounted for: Fett's demise and the Executor's crash. In contrast to the "worst" that ROTJ has to offer, consider Jake Lloyd's 'acting', Hayden Christiansen's hopeful but inexperienced and under-directed acting, every frame of Geonosis 3PO, Ben Burtt's 'editing' in the AOTC duel, CGI Yoda's 'sonic the hedgehog' representation of mass and momentum during his lightsabre battles, and live actors' body movement physics when stitched against CGI backgrounds (Anakin rides a Naboo beast, Anakin/Padme ride a colosseum beast, Anakin leaps onto lava floater).
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 6/30 12:53am Subject: Return of The Jedi - Date Edited: 6/30 12:59am (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
	Hernalt posted: In contrast to the "worst" that ROTJ has to offer, consider Jake Lloyd's 'acting', Hayden Christiansen's hopeful but inexperienced and under-directed acting, every frame of Geonosis 3PO, Ben Burtt's 'editing' in the AOTC duel, CGI Yoda's 'sonic the hedgehog' representation of mass and momentum during his lightsabre battles, and live actors' body movement physics when stitched against CGI backgrounds (Anakin rides a Naboo beast, Anakin/Padme ride a colosseum beast, Anakin leaps onto lava floater). I would agree with you there, even though it is starting to get close to the treacherous PT vs. OT debate. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 6/30 1:48am Subject: Return of The Jedi
	DarthBoba posted: Well, this probably is my favorite OT film, although it definitely could've benefitted from being made after the advent of CGI I know this is an older post, but this line just jumped out at me, it's so wrong. The space battle in RotJ has yet to be matched by any film as far as the beauty of its effects is concerned. Maybe if CGI ever gets to the point where scenes like the Battle of Coruscant stop looking like cartoons RotJ will lose its title, but the space battle/chase scenes from the OT are currently the best-looking ones that have ever been committed to celluloid. -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 6/30 9:39am Subject: Return of The Jedi
	Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted: DarthBoba posted: Well, this probably is my favorite OT film, although it definitely could've benefitted from being made after the advent of CGI I know this is an older post, but this line just jumped out at me, it's so wrong. The space battle in RotJ has yet to be matched by any film as far as the beauty of its effects is concerned. Maybe if CGI ever gets to the point where scenes like the Battle of Coruscant stop looking like cartoons RotJ will lose its title, but the space battle/chase scenes from the OT are currently the best-looking ones that have ever been committed to celluloid. While I agree that the space battles in the originals are superior to most in the prequels, I think that if the CGI were used sparingly, such as in TPM, then it'd go along way to improve some of the lackluster parts of the ROTJ battle. Because it wasn't shot in digital, because it used some models, and because it used some CGI, I think the space battle in TPM is by far the best in the saga. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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Drewton Registered: Jan '09	Date Posted: 6/30 10:37am Subject: Return of The Jedi - Date Edited: 6/30 10:38am (1 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
	The Battle of Coruscant is the only battle which I think looks "off". I think the main reason is that there's just too many things happening and too many ships. If I was just a casual moviegoer I'd think "That's nice, but what the hell is going on? Who are they, and who are they? Was that bad...or was that good?" This is also one of the problems with Transformers. And, special effects just don't work as well with HD. The amount of colour didn't make it any more convincing, either. -----signature----- http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-sith-lords-massive-improvement-mod The Sith Lords Massive Improvement Mod
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 6/30 11:12am Subject: Return of The Jedi
	Drewton posted: The Battle of Coruscant is the only battle which I think looks "off". I think the main reason is that there's just too many things happening and too many ships. If I was just a casual moviegoer I'd think "That's nice, but what the hell is going on? Who are they, and who are they? Was that bad...or was that good?" This is also one of the problems with Transformers. And, special effects just don't work as well with HD. The amount of colour didn't make it any more convincing, either. I had the same issues with all of AOTC too. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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Hernalt Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 6/30 4:27pm Subject: Return of The Jedi - Date Edited: 6/30 4:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Hernalt
	TPM had a space battle? I recall no foreshadowing of the physical pathway to victory (as in ANH and ROTJ), no throw-away radio-modulated chatter in the fog of war, no individual dogfights, no enemy flying ace, no living enemy combatant whatsoever, no dialogue with high quotability, no sustained close-ups of anonymous yet undeniably human and inextricably unique faces being showered in sparks of oblivion, no eternal marriage of score and visuals as the physical trappings and crutches of the hero are each individually sheared away in a hail of green plasma, revealing beneath this crude matter the luminous being of the potent will. The CGI integration with physical models, however, was very good. But whatever soul the TPM 'space battle' possesses is on loan at high interest from DOTF and Darth Maul. The (space) Battle of Coruscant is the sole scene for 10+ minutes and so can borrow no soul. All the CGI ingredients are present, credible, and properly restrained, but Christiansen's lines are ruthlessly slaughtered by green screen of death. The camera never puts either of them at truly credible risk, and the vibe of 'another day, another dollar' is never sobered by any body count of (non-unique) Clone troopers. Considering how good a pilot Anakin is supposed to be (on his own skills alone), it comes across as twee that R2 just happens to be with him in media res. With ROTJ, a few of Lando's lines could have been stronger. Too many TIEs and Interceptors were swapped out for explosions instead of proper pyrotechnics on an accurate model. There's a beauty shot of new craft A-wings and B-wings, but only the A-wing gets real screen time. There's violation of quantity of Mon Cal cruisers. There's violation of continuity with Rebel fleet location: Luke looks out and sees a flat plain of ships as if they are aligned to the galactic plain, but then Lando shoots out into the waiting arms of a Rebel fleet hovering over Endor. I have high hopes for an Adywan edit of ROTJ... What is the provenance of the picture where three B-wings flee an exploding ISD? Was that deleted footage? And in reference to the recent thread about the Mon Cal, when did the Rebels become the Alliance? "Alliance" was not used in ANH, but rather "Rebellion".
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