Author Topic: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
Merlin_Ambrosius69  1925 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7/08 8:02am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
The entire point of Anakin's fall to the dark side is that he couldn't let go of his attachment to his loved ones. Death is a natural part of life, as is loss. In order to become a complete and mature person, we must learn to cope with loss, tragedy and death. It's natural to miss a person and mourn their passing, but there comes a time when we must move on. Life is for the living. To wish that Padme and Anakin could be re-united after her death is to miss the point that the films are trying to make here.

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7/08 6:28pm Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united? - Date Edited: 11/7/08 6:28pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Master_Starwalker
obi-rob-kenobi4 posted:
Master_Starwalker posted:
obi-rob-kenobi4 posted:
yea other people cant retain their identity but that doesn't mean you become totally gone and no more after you die, you just become one with the netherworld of the force. Kind of like the circle of life. nerd


If that's the case then the ability to retain your identity isn't an accomplishment and yet it's depicted as being one.


Well the ability to retain your identity is still an accomplishment in that they can actually materialize from the afterlife to life and show themselves to people like luke at the end of Episode 6. Yoda said in Revenge of the sith that qui-gon "returned from the netherworld of the force" suggesting that he cant retain his identity (witch is an accomplishment like you said) but he CAN however communicate with yoda when he is deep in meditation and then yoda teaches obi-wan how to do the same and so on.

I dont think its that much of a stretch to say that there is at least (on some level) some sort of "afterlife" or "heaven" when you die in star wars.


Qui-Gon clearly did retain his identity though as he's coming back as Qui-Gon, albeit only audibly. I have to admit that Yoda's use of the phrase "netherworld of the Force" makes it seem as though there may be some sort of 'heaven', but that's the only thing which even suggests there's any sort of life after death.

Most of the descriptions of the Force make it seem as though upon death beings simply rejoin the Force and are no more.

 

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DarthDuckie  1910 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7/08 6:57pm Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
Merlin_Ambrosius69 posted:
The entire point of Anakin's fall to the dark side is that he couldn't let go of his attachment to his loved ones. Death is a natural part of life, as is loss. In order to become a complete and mature person, we must learn to cope with loss, tragedy and death. It's natural to miss a person and mourn their passing, but there comes a time when we must move on. Life is for the living. To wish that Padme and Anakin could be re-united after her death is to miss the point that the films are trying to make here.



Yes, indeed. The message is, in fact, quite a harsh one, but one which must be learned if one is to be able to navigate the sometimes stormy waters of this life. Anakin was unable to do this at first, but managed to do so in the end. Candy coating the end of the saga too much would detract from this I feel.

 

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eht13  651 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7/08 8:20pm Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
It would probably be a repeat of the fire place scene, with him saying "Padme, without you I can't breathe" except it would actually be funny due to his life support suit.


"Padme, without you... and this suit of course... I can't breathe." laugh

 

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JonnyOizumi 
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Date Posted: 11/8/08 5:55am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
DarthDuckie posted:
"I was wrong to want to take over the Universe and then strangle you to death when you didn't agree with me. Please forgive me..."

"..Ah, OK Anakin, we all make mistakes."

"Obi-Wan... There's still good in him..."
- Padme Amidala

I just owned your entire sarcastic quote.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10326 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8/08 9:38am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
Here's a quote from Mick Jagger.

"You can't always get what you want."

Own that.

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_  3874 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8/08 1:21pm Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
But if you try sometime, you might just find, you get what you need!

.'. Let's not ask for more trouble people.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26471 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8/08 1:38pm Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
They could always make another trilogy. Anakin becomes a force ghost, gets pissed because he still can't see Padme. Then, as a force ghost, goes the clone of the Emporer and offers to be his apprentice in exchange for transferring force abilities to Padme's corpse, ressurecting it, teaching her how to become a force ghost and then letting her die so she could join him in the force.

Oh hells yes, I would totally buy an episodes 7 - 9 made entirely with Force ghosts. As long as there's an obligatory innocent Death Star contractor cameo, that is.

 

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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon  7410 posts
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Date Posted: 11/8/08 7:06pm Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
Having the characters as force ghosts would allow Lucas to even have the main characters as CGI creations, and not have to deal with actors or sets ever again!

You should send this idea to LucasFilm, because you could cause the happiest day in Lucas's life.

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_  3874 posts
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Date Posted: 11/9/08 7:57am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
...and the worst for fanboys and girls everywhere.

 

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DarthDuckie  1910 posts
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Date Posted: 11/9/08 11:14am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
JonnyOizumi posted:
DarthDuckie posted:
"I was wrong to want to take over the Universe and then strangle you to death when you didn't agree with me. Please forgive me..."

"..Ah, OK Anakin, we all make mistakes."

"Obi-Wan... There's still good in him..."
- Padme Amidala

I just owned your entire sarcastic quote.



Congratulations! You're now the proud owner of a shiny new sarcastic quote! Or is that a pair of shiny new sarcastic quotes?

 

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anidanami124  11795 posts
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Date Posted: 11/9/08 11:27am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
I don't really see at point in it. I mean she was not a Jedi. Also just where would it be added into? The end of Return of the Jedi is more about ever one who is living and the fact that they are free from the Empire.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26471 posts
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Date Posted: 11/13/08 10:33am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
...and the worst for fanboys and girls everywhere.



But the best for unemployed computer animators!

 

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El-Elyon  363 posts
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Date Posted: 11/15/08 5:35am Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
Master_Starwalker posted:
Kazanova posted:
Padme is dead. As in she has no distinct spirit anymore.


Exactly.

obi-rob-kenobi4 posted:
There would be no way to actually "show" it and it is implied that they are reunited in the living force anyways so i agree it would be unnecessary. If you are paying attention throughout the saga than by the ending of ROTJ you will get a sense that Anakin is happy and complete in the afterlife of the force just like obi-wan and yoda are, the only difference is them you can see. He is reunited with padme in the force because everything is connected by the living force. It is a happy ending. rose


He's happy, but not with Padme. She's dead and he's learned to let go of attachment.


do u reckon that by ROTJ hes kinda gotten over her? whistling

 

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Go-Mer-Tonic  19592 posts
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Date Posted: 11/15/08 2:08pm Subject: RE: Do you guys think they should have a scene where Anakin and padme are united?
Padme wouldn't have been able to retain her identity so when she died, she died.

 

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