nancyallen posted:

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This does bring up something very clever...Luke actually achieves nothing. As herculean as his efforts were twice now his efforts were in vain, for lack of a better word. Had he chosen to stay on Dagobah in ESB, or remain on Endor with the Rebels, nothing would have changed.

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Merlin_Ambrosius69 posted:

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The character has never been presented as anything but masterfully cunning and self-preserving.

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Darth_Pevra posted:

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Merlin_Ambrosius69 posted:

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The character has never been presented as anything but masterfully cunning and self-preserving.

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Eh, no?
1)
His whole plan was risky in the first place and he didn't secure Endor properly.
2)
His arrogant speech was part of the reason Luke didn't kill his father.

Summary: he is intelligent, but his one big weakness is hubris. I deem it possible that he would remain too long on the station.

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Daft-Vader posted:

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Darth_Pevra posted:

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Merlin_Ambrosius69 posted:

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The character has never been presented as anything but masterfully cunning and self-preserving.

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Eh, no?
1)
His whole plan was risky in the first place and he didn't secure Endor properly.
2)
His arrogant speech was part of the reason Luke didn't kill his father.

Summary: he is intelligent, but his one big weakness is hubris. I deem it possible that he would remain too long on the station.

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1)

He had alegion of his best troops. Its not his fault they were useless against primitive Ewoks/Gullible to Rebel Troops in Stolen ATSTs

2)

I thought it was the chopped off hand that made Luke not turn?

I may be wrong

TFM

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