Author Topic: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
snelson  920 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/08 3:40pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
how did luke know there was good in darth vader?

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10326 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/08 3:42pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
He could feel it.

 

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TPOJ 
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Date Posted: 12/8/08 6:47pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
Vader wouldn't kill him after Luke refused to join him.

 

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Ryorin  432 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/08 7:10pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
TPOJ posted:
Vader wouldn't kill him after Luke refused to join him.

That's probably a bad example, as at that point Luke let go and dropped...

I think Vader's offer was an indication of some sort of fathery feeling beneath the surface, and maybe his feeling at that point was also mixed. Luke was understandably distressed at that point, so later on when he could concentrate, Luke was able to untangle the jumble of emotions and see the tiny bit of good hidden in there.

 

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drg4  808 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/08 7:28pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
Although it still feels like I missed a movie--Episode 5.5: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Sith Lord--Lucas covered his butt in having Padme intone: "There is good in him. I know...there's...still..."

In essence, Luke sees good in his rotter of a father because he's an Amidala. Amidalas, you see, possess the uncanny ability to look past nasty little transgressions like child slaughter, cosmocide, and hand-severings.

Amidalas are really obnoxious people.

 

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timmoishere  7785 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/08 10:50pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
Luke used the Force to sense Vader's soul.

 

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JohnWesleyDowney  5202 posts
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Date Posted: 12/8/08 11:45pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.

Amidalas are really obnoxious people.

They aren't the only ones.

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 12/9/08 12:21am Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
"Search your feelings, father. You can't do this. I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate."

"Your thoughts betray you, father. I feel the good in you...the conflict."

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_  3874 posts
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Date Posted: 12/10/08 6:40pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
Luke knew because he felt some of the hope in Vader. Also, Anakin's always been a sucker for attatchment, and whether he knows Luke well or not, he's still his son. So therefore, when Darth Vader didn't kill Luke on Bespin, and kept procrastinating to finish him on the DSII when he refused to fight. That was a sign that maybe Darth Vader wasn't 100% evil.

 

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Darth_Pevra  105 posts
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Date Posted: 12/11/08 3:38am Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
Luke knew because he felt some of the hope in Vader. Also, Anakin's always been a sucker for attatchment, and whether he knows Luke well or not, he's still his son. So therefore, when Darth Vader didn't kill Luke on Bespin, and kept procrastinating to finish him on the DSII when he refused to fight. That was a sign that maybe Darth Vader wasn't 100% evil.

Yes, Vader's a family person. Shmi taught him that family needs to stick together and her words were still imprinted in his unconscious.

 

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ILuvJarJar  1394 posts
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Date Posted: 12/12/08 12:11pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
He could sence it in the force....its not hard to figure out.

 

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Ree  3671 posts
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Date Posted: 12/12/08 7:33pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
The Force.

'Nuff said.

 

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jedimasterbac  6231 posts
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Date Posted: 12/12/08 7:36pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
I'd also chalk it up primarily to the Force, as in Luke was able to feel the goodness and the conflict inside of Vader. I would also venture to guess that it was also because of Vader's actions, such as not killing Luke and stuff like that.

 

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celera  405 posts
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Date Posted: 12/13/08 12:56pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
It's not just the Force since Leia had a harder time forgiving Anakin. I say Luke has Padme's compassion (although how much of it was inherited vs taught by his aunt and uncle is up for debate). It's amazing that they can still have faith in Anakin after a Force choke and hand severing.

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 12/13/08 2:04pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
Luke's temperament definitely played a part in it.

 

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jedimasterbac  6231 posts
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Date Posted: 12/13/08 2:09pm Subject: How Did Luke Know There Was Good In Anakin.
celera posted:
It's not just the Force since Leia had a harder time forgiving Anakin. I say Luke has Padme's compassion


That's a really good point. I hadn't thought of that one. You're most likely right in saying that Padmé's compassion and belief that there was good in Anakin had something to do with it. I think Luke was the one that Obi-Wan was holding as Padmé said that and died, so maybe that thought was somehow embedded in him by the Force. Leia probably had a bit of Anakin in her, which could explain why she was so stubborn about forgiving Anakin at first.

 

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