DarthBoba posted:Alpha-Red posted:Wait, so back in 1977 it was established that Obi-Wan disappears rather than this being a recent retcon? No, he just hid in the back of Luke's X-Wing on Yavin, stark naked and whispering things to Luke.
Alpha-Red posted:Wait, so back in 1977 it was established that Obi-Wan disappears rather than this being a recent retcon?
Arawn_Fenn posted:Alpha-Red posted:Wait, so back in 1977 it was established that Obi-Wan disappears rather than this being a recent retcon? Yes, as the thread title amply demonstrates with its reference to Vader stomping on visibly empty robes. And Yoda disappeared in 1983, not exactly what you could call "a recent retcon".
clrobins6r posted:I agree with a lot of people, that it was mostly Vader's shock. Got to remember what Obi said just before he died, "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerfull than you can possibly imagine." So Vader hears his old, crafty master utter these words and then swoosh, Vader takes him out without any defensive moves. Vader's first thought has got to be 'what?' then he's thinking what did he mean by more powerfull?
UCLAJediMaster posted:on a similar note: How can Vader/Anakin appear at the end of ROTJ? Did he somehow learn to become "one with the force" between ANH and ROTJ? My only theory is that after Kenobi tells him "if you strike me down, i shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine," then disappears. This really shocks Vader. He then spends a TON of time meditating and figures out the technique Kenobi used. This deep meditation might also help explain Vader's turn back to the light. By learning the technique of Kenobi he already took a "step" towards the light.
UCLAJediMaster posted:I simply refuse to believe the explanation that Obi-Wan and Yoda helped Anakin become one with the force. NO WHERE is this implied in the movies so for Lucas to just state it is simply retcon.
UCLAJediMaster posted:obviously you are baiting me.
jedimasterbac posted:UCLAJediMaster posted:obviously you are baiting me. Actually I'm not. I'm politely asking that you start a new thread or read the one in the index about why Anakin disappeared, as that's not the topic of this thread. Thank you.