metalbikini posted: I like this solution because it shows Vader as weak and pitiful, a characterization I have always agreed with.
xx_Anakin_xx posted: It makes no sense that Lucas would feel a need to make Vader feel pitiful and weak, helpless and lost - that would be a prime reason for him to have gotten on with resolving his conflict much sooner. He wasn't recognizing any wrongs at that point. And it also makes entirely no sense in terms of Anakin's character from the beginning or Vader's throughout the series. He simply was not the type to throw in the towel and play poodle. It also renders the final moment too incredulous to believe. One minute the weak, helpless man who gave up and submitted to Sidious and the next this massive avenging returned Jedi guy? I don't buy it.
jedimasterbac posted:For all we know, unless there is a source with him saying something, that may very well have been his intention back then. However, it's still a good question to ask, considering we know that he now refers to it as "The Tragedy of Darth Vader".
BaronLandoCalrissian posted:GEORGE LUCAS ON VADER Rolling Stone 2005 "Ultimately, he's just a pathetic guy who's had a very sad life." "it's even more tragic, because he's not even an all-powerful bad guy, he's kind of a flunky."