Badger_Legion posted:Dictators and powerful military figures are generally feared by people who live under their yoke. Nothing in that indicates that the average Galactic citizen knows that they are force users.
TwiLekJedi posted:The portrayal of the Jedi under the Empire has been pretty much always been assumed to be about suppression and misleading, and that has been picked up by EU. Luckily, we also see a hint of that when Palpatine publically claims there was an assassination attempt by the Jedi. Aside from Organa and Padme, no eyebrows were raised at that claim. Of course he would continue that and make it official policy. And I still think you grossly overestimate public knowledge about the Force. But I suppose I don't understand why someone wouldn't take Luke's lack of knowledge as a statement about the state of the galaxy (or even just Tatooine), and instead assume Luke doesn't fit what the rest of the galaxy must surely be like. And even if the galaxy at large should know, why wouldn't Tatooine be one of the exceptions? Nobody seemed to be curious about Anakin's podracing during the glory days of the Jedi Order.
HellasLEAF-Jedi posted:BadgerLegion posted:Authoritarian governments almost always suppress information that doesn't work to their favor. Why would the Empire be any different? As for how, it's simply a matter of not allowing the information to be discussed in the public sphere. If information on the Jedi could potentially hurt the government, then you can be sure that that knowledge wouldn't be taught in any school or univeristy, it wouldn't be mentioned in any media, and books about it would be censored or destroyed entirely. Sure, a lot of people would still know about the force and the Jedi, and they could teach their children about them, but when you live in a police state, a lot of people choose to keep their mouths shut to avoid any potential trouble with the government. That wouldn't entirely eradicate the information from the public consciousness, but it would be far less commonly known. Kind of like the Tiananmen Square Massacre in China. listen, your statement simply isn't accurately applied to the Star Wars world. you are trying to take events that have happened here on earth in a totalitarion state and apply that to how the Empire ruled the galaxy and it's not relatable.
BadgerLegion posted:Authoritarian governments almost always suppress information that doesn't work to their favor. Why would the Empire be any different? As for how, it's simply a matter of not allowing the information to be discussed in the public sphere. If information on the Jedi could potentially hurt the government, then you can be sure that that knowledge wouldn't be taught in any school or univeristy, it wouldn't be mentioned in any media, and books about it would be censored or destroyed entirely. Sure, a lot of people would still know about the force and the Jedi, and they could teach their children about them, but when you live in a police state, a lot of people choose to keep their mouths shut to avoid any potential trouble with the government. That wouldn't entirely eradicate the information from the public consciousness, but it would be far less commonly known. Kind of like the Tiananmen Square Massacre in China.
HellasLEAF posted:We are talking about a Galaxy here, not a country or city.
HellasLEAF posted:You are making way to many presumptions about how the Empire would handle knowledge of the Jedi. Not only is there no evidence that they were even trying to do that (fine let's assume they tried) that would be impossible.
HellasLEAF posted:BadgerLegion posted:Dictators and powerful military figures are generally feared by people who live under their yoke. Nothing in that indicates that the average Galactic citizen knows that they are force users. oh come on, you are telling me that they didn't know Vader was a force user. Darth Vader. After ROTS, Vader lead and helped build the empire into the galactic presence it is when ANH begins. Taking over worlds and hunting down Jedi. What, is he holding back? No, of course not. Over these many years he is garnering a reputation for being a feared ruler and he is obviously using force powers. It's why they fear him, it's not the black mask. His exploits have to be known galaxy wide. Not every man, women and alien, but 'known' for the most part.
BadgerLegion posted:Dictators and powerful military figures are generally feared by people who live under their yoke. Nothing in that indicates that the average Galactic citizen knows that they are force users.
jedibri posted:If Luke is anakin's offspring then how is it he had no knowledge of the Force? I mean come on. It's in his dna. Even if he was far removed from his Father and sister he should have had some ideal he was different. Thoughts?
halibut posted:I find it more hard to believe that the name "Anakin Skywalker" is not well known throughout the galaxy. Also, Luke is a racer and a pilot. Surely he'd know that a certain Anakin Skywalker was the first human to win the Boonta Eve Classic on his home planet. Anakin was a great pilot. Luke is a great pilot. They share a surname....
HellasLEAF-Jedi posted:oh come on, you are telling me that they didn't know Vader was a force user. Darth Vader. After ROTS, Vader lead and helped build the empire into the galactic presence it is when ANH begins. Taking over worlds and hunting down Jedi. What, is he holding back? No, of course not. Over these many years he is garnering a reputation for being a feared ruler and he is obviously using force powers. It's why they fear him, it's not the black mask. His exploits have to be known galaxy wide. Not every man, women and alien, but 'known' for the most part.