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Sithlord715 Registered: Jan '09	Date Posted: 1/20 5:40pm Subject: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	Alright, so simply, I wish to share what my perfect, and "realistic", ending for ROTJ would have been like. I've shared this view with fellow friends and fans, and was simply wondering what you guys might think. Here is the order of events: Battle of Endor - Space: The Rebels are ambushed in the oh so famous "trap". The battle rages on, and as the Death Star II begins firing on Rebel ships, the fleet begins to take heavy losses. These losses are even greater when Lando orders the fleet to engage the Star Destroyers. With the sheer amount of Fighters, Star Destroyers, and the DS using its main weapon to take out large cruisers, the Rebel fleet is utterly defeated. Home One, the Falcon, and a few stragglers have no choice but to flee, which they do. Battle of Endor - Ground: So, originally, as some of you may know, the battle was to take place on Kashyyk, with Wookiees battling the Imperials, not the Ewoks. Had the former taken place, it would have made a lot more sense, but alas, as we all know, it didn't, due to budgetary reasons. Therefore, logically, here is what would have taken place in my opinion: The Rebels, and Ewoks, lose. It's that simple. The Imperial Legion annihilates the little furballs and the small band of Rebel soldiers. Han, Leia, Chewie, and the droids survive and are taken prisoner Duel aboard the Death Star II: The events of the duel take place exactly as they do in the movie, culminating in the death of the Emperor by Vader's/Anakin's hands. Anakin dies in Luke's arms in the Throne Room, not in the hangar. Shortly after the victories over the Rebels, Moff Jerjerod and a few other Moffs walk in to inform the Emperor, when they find both him and Vader slain, and Luke alive. Luke declares that the Emperor is indeed dead, being killed by Vader's hands, and that Vader shortly afterwards died himself. After, Luke declares that he is the new Emperor. The Moffs bow before him and tell him the status of the battles. After these events, Luke releases his friends from prison, and calls back the remaining ships from the Rebel fleet. With Ackbar, Mothma, and the other Rebel leaders on board the Death Star, Luke resigns as Emperor, and together, they all proclaim that the Empire will be reformed into the New Republic. And then they dance with the ewoks and what not, and yeah, the End, lol So what do you guys think? In a logical SW universe, not bound by Hollywood and other real life influences, could such an event taken place? -----signature----- Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; and tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 1/20 5:44pm Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	My only criticism is that the Death Star is left intact. Some other power-hungry individual(s) could take control of it and wreak havoc. It had to be destroyed. Otherwise, it's an interesting ending. -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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Sithlord715 Registered: Jan '09	Date Posted: 1/20 5:50pm Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	Grand_Moff_Jawa posted: My only criticism is that the Death Star is left intact. Some other power-hungry individual(s) could take control of it and wreak havoc. It had to be destroyed. Otherwise, it's an interesting ending. Thanks for the input, and good point. Perhaps it would have been treated like a second Centerpoint Station? Or, perhaps, its main weapon would have been destroyed, and the Death Star could be used as a large military base, or hell, even a planet on its own. It's interesting what could have been done with it had it survived. Sure as hell would have made fighting the Vong easier, lol -----signature----- Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; and tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 1/20 6:05pm Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	Deactivating the Super Laser would have been enough to render it safe. -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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skywalkerz Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 1/22 10:33am Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	I hope the Death Star is reamed the Secure Star, where it's one big security camera instead of a planet-destroying weapon.
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 1/22 3:04pm Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts? - Date Edited: 1/22 3:05pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
	nm -----signature----- His legions, angel forms, who lay entranced. Thick as autumnal leaves that strow the brooks. <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> "Why don't you take your simplistic good/evil dualism and found Zoroastrianism?" - zweebex
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GrandAdmiral_Frank Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 1/23 1:21am Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	That ending would work however I am not sure if you knew this but Lando was actually supposed to die. The whole purpose behind Han saying he felt like he'd never see the Falcon again was to foreshadow what was going to happen. If I remember correctly Lando does destroy the DS but he never makes it out. However everyone decided that it would make the film too dark so it never happened. -----signature----- Member of the Han Solo and Chewbacca FanClub Member of the TFF Winner of the PT Rewrite Challenge Four "Don't make me destroy you"-Darth Vader, The Empire Strikes Back
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KennethMorgan Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 1/23 7:42pm Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	Sorry, I can't go along with this. If you want realism, then Luke would've stayed as Emperor, in order to ensure a smooth transition of government. Then, he'd have become so accustomed to the power that he'd have hung onto the role long after it was no longer necessary. So, in the end, he's the new Palpatine and the whole thing was for nothing. Much better to have Luke reject power once and for all. It's a much better fit for the moral message of the OT. Besides, would the Imperials really have just accepted Luke as ruler just on his say-so? -----signature----- -30-
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 1/24 10:38am Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts? - Date Edited: 1/24 10:39am (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
	GrandAdmiral_Frank posted: If I remember correctly Lando does destroy the DS but he never makes it out. However everyone decided that it would make the film too dark so it never happened. It's also such an odious cliche in science fiction to have the black guy die. ( Or at least it was, until the Matrix series came along and neatly reversed the cliche. ) -----signature----- His legions, angel forms, who lay entranced. Thick as autumnal leaves that strow the brooks. <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> "Why don't you take your simplistic good/evil dualism and found Zoroastrianism?" - zweebex
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obi-arin-kenobi Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 1/27 10:35pm Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	The Ewoks are critical to the theme and overall story arc of the saga though.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 1/27 10:46pm Subject: RE: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: Or at least it was, until the Matrix series came along and neatly reversed the cliche. Say what you will about everything else in the sequels, but kudos to the Wachowskis for that. Between that and the war ending not with one side in victory over the other but in a mutual peace, I was one of the few people who left the theater smiling. -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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Alpha-Red Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 3/25 8:39pm Subject: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts? - Date Edited: 3/25 8:48pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Alpha-Red
	Think I posted a topic with a similar idea....but now I have another one. Return of the Jedi should have been set six years after Empire Strikes Back. This gives Luke time to complete his training and surpass Darth Vader, and perhaps even the Emperor....hence the "only together can we turn him to the dark side". After six years of fighting, the Rebel Alliance gains the upper hand against the Empire. Mass defections from the Imperial Navy to the Rebellion have drained the Empire's strength and bolstered the Alliance. This makes the prior Battle of Hoth all the more important because it means the Rebellion truly represented a threat to the Empire, and simply by surviving the Rebels were able to win. This also gives the Empire a good reason to build a second Death Star....only with the battle station could it win decisively against the Rebels. Only the combined strength of the Imperial fleet and the Death Star can the Empire smash the Rebels once and for all. With all this as a background, the space battle over Endor and the duel in the throne room would make much more sense. -The Emperor needs both the Death Star and Luke as his apprentice to retain control over the galaxy. -The Rebel fleet is indeed trapped, even though it can defeat the Imperial fleet and blast its way out, it cannot possibly do so before being superlasered to death. Thus, Lando's pointblank-range tactic to buy time makes sense. -Luke emerges victorious over Vader, but his initial hesitation to fight gets him injured. Palpatine counted on this happening, so that he could fry Luke with Force lightning after Vader was dead....giving him another apprentice he could control. Luke doesn't turn to the dark side, so Palps goes to Plan B and tries to kill Luke outright. This goes well until Vader tosses him down the reactor shaft. -The destruction of the shield generator turns the tables in the space battle, allowing the Rebels to destroy the Death Star. The Imperial fleet is forced to retreat. Oh, and I agree that the ground battle should have taken place with Wookies instead of Ewoks ^^
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BaronFel88 Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 3/25 8:48pm Subject: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	GrandAdmiral_Frank posted: That ending would work however I am not sure if you knew this but Lando was actually supposed to die. The whole purpose behind Han saying he felt like he'd never see the Falcon again was to foreshadow what was going to happen. If I remember correctly Lando does destroy the DS but he never makes it out. However everyone decided that it would make the film too dark so it never happened. I think in very early development Lando sacrifices himself to display his commitment to the cause by ramming the Falcon into the Death Star's shield. -----signature----- "Oh the pain" "What a disgrace" -Joe Benigno
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Avnar Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 3/26 7:18pm Subject: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	I like!! ROTJ is my personal favourite star wars movie -but i think EVERYTIME i watch it,i wish that the ewoks were wookies... It is the only thing i would change about the classic trilogy. (The prequel trilogy -i would only "keep" a couple of things haha)
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woj101 Registered: Feb '00	Date Posted: 3/27 4:08pm Subject: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	I just wouldn't change it - the only thing I would do is re-instate the Yub-Nub (or Yub-Yub, or whatever it is) song. It's a brilliant finale, and I can't see why people are so upset by the presence of Ewoks. It adds an element of fun, mischievousness, ingenuity and bravery to the battle. What would them being Wookies add to it? -----signature----- You've failed Your Highness. I am a cider-drinker, like my father before me.
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ILuvJarJar Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 3/29 2:46pm Subject: My ROTJ ending: Thoughts?
	Grand_Moff_Jawa posted: My only criticism is that the Death Star is left intact. Some other power-hungry individual(s) could take control of it and wreak havoc. It had to be destroyed. Otherwise, it's an interesting ending. I also dont like the idea of Luke being a "Empror". -----signature----- ROTJ < ESB < ATOC < ANH < ROTS < TPM < TCW Star Wars Battlefront Elite Squadrons: Fall 2009 Proud President of the Salacious Crumb fanclub Star Wars>>>>>>>>My Social Life It is well worth it.....
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