Author Topic: Did we actually SEE the Force?
Grand_Moff_Jawa  4737 posts
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Date Posted: 1/23 7:22pm Subject: Did we actually SEE the Force?
When Vader throws the Emperor down the shaft at the end of ROTJ, a violent blue disturbance flows up and down the shaft. Is this the Force itself raging out of Palpatine? What else could it be?

 

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KennethMorgan  433 posts
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Date Posted: 1/23 7:37pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
Going by the "Heir to the Empire" books, that's all that pent-up, destructive Dark Side energy leaving Palatine's remains. Going by what we see in the PT, though, that may no longer be canon, since we didn't see something similar when Dooku or Maul were killed.

 

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Gurthrim_Lah  730 posts
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Date Posted: 1/23 7:43pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
It was a power surge when Palpatine was thrown down the shaft, he must of hit something down there to cause it.

 

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Date Posted: 1/23 9:48pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
KennethMorgan posted:
Going by the "Heir to the Empire" books, that's all that pent-up, destructive Dark Side energy leaving Palatine's remains. Going by what we see in the PT, though, that may no longer be canon, since we didn't see something similar when Dooku or Maul were killed.



I'd like to think that the HttE explanation is still the right one. I explain any contradiction, at least to myself, by saying that Maul and Dooku were not as evil as Palpatine, so there wasn't energy like that to release.

 

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Merlin_Ambrosius69  1925 posts
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Date Posted: 1/23 10:22pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
Lightning was still shooting from Palpatine's fingertips as Vader lifted him and tossed him over. I've always believed the explosion was the the final burst of lighting escaping from the Emperor's body as it impacted the floor of the shaft.

 

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timmoishere  7785 posts
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Date Posted: 1/23 10:33pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
KennethMorgan posted:
Going by the "Heir to the Empire" books, that's all that pent-up, destructive Dark Side energy leaving Palatine's remains. Going by what we see in the PT, though, that may no longer be canon, since we didn't see something similar when Dooku or Maul were killed.



Palpatine was using Force Lightning when he died, which is why there was the blue flare. Same thing happened when C'baoth died. Maul and Dooku weren't using lightning, hence no blue explosion.

 

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Qui-Gon_Reborn  5531 posts
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Date Posted: 1/24 3:48pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
Grand_Moff_Jawa posted:
When Vader throws the Emperor down the shaft at the end of ROTJ, a violent blue disturbance flows up and down the shaft. Is this the Force itself raging out of Palpatine? What else could it be?


It's probably just energy backwash created from the power generated by Palpy's fall.

 

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rsterling78  4883 posts
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Date Posted: 1/24 8:10pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
What we saw was a tremor in the Force resulting from a useless shaft connecting the Emperor's throne room to the Death Star's reactor core without any guard rails. The fact that the Emperor apparently fell about 279 miles (900 km diameter DS II, about 279 miles to the center) in perhaps 3 seconds which would suggest he fell at a speed of about 334,800 miles per hour didn't help matters.

 

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GrandAdmiral_Frank  2417 posts
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Date Posted: 1/25 9:35am Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
I believe it was a cosmic explosion of darkside energy. Dooku was definitely not as evil as Palpatine, yes he was deserving of the title Sith Lord, but not as evil. Maul, intimidating and flat out being a killing machine are wonderful and he went through a more *&%#ed up childhood than Anakin but he still did not match Palpatine in the department of evil.

 

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GuNgAnFaN3090  6699 posts
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Date Posted: 1/25 9:49am Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
I think it's some kind of darkside energy. I don't know what it would be. thinking

 

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DarthDragon164  711 posts
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Date Posted: 1/25 10:18am Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
A similar events has happened other times in the EU. When Darth Nihilus dies in KotORII, he goes out in a red explosion. Oddly, when Shaak Ti died in TFU, she explodes in blue light, like Palpatine, so it doesn't seem to be an exclusive dark side thing.

 

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GuNgAnFaN3090  6699 posts
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Date Posted: 1/25 4:02pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
Hmmmm, I must not have been paying attention in TFU. I don't remember how Shaak Ti died....I guess it's a "force thing" rather than a "darkside thing" - or something else... thinking

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 1/25 4:11pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
I think all of the Jedi who die in TFU turn into blue energy.

 

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Qui-Gon_Reborn  5531 posts
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Date Posted: 1/25 8:24pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
Master_Starwalker posted:
I think all of the Jedi who die in TFU turn into blue energy.


I've got news for you. When anything dies in TFU, it turns into blue energy. tongue

 

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GuNgAnFaN3090  6699 posts
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Date Posted: 1/26 3:38pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
Qui-Gon_Reborn is right, I just played some TFU and everything turned blue when I killed it. thinking

 

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Merlin_Ambrosius69  1925 posts
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Date Posted: 1/26 4:19pm Subject: RE: Did we actually SEE the Force?
So much for TFU being an inerrant source of information about how the Force works.

 

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