Author Topic: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
DarthIktomi  1380 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 1:15pm Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
DarthBoba posted:
Just as an aside..the Mandalorians do have some vaguely Spartan-esque cultural aspects to them, beyond that none of those jet-pack-toting pansies would've made it through the Agoge.

Maybe the Spartan tradition of institutionalized and cultural homsexuality was one of them. tongue

Traviss says Mandos are Celts. Not like they would've made it through whatever the Celts called their basic training either. Or any of the other real-world cultures Flanderized into a Proud Warrior Race in fiction. Like, well, yours truly.

Though I do think it's funny that eugenics and military service intersect with both the Jedi's relationship with the clones and the US relationship with Indians.

 

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DuracellEnergizer  368 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 11:12am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
I hate this change so much, regardless of the fact that it is a rather small change.

I, for one, prefer the single-minded hitman/monk Fett that the EU originally portrayed him as. He was a rather unique and interesting character. But now ... ugh. frustrated

 

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DarthIktomi  1380 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 12:42pm Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
But was he a monk in G-canon? I mean, yeah, he's celibate in Tales of the Bounty Hunters (and that actually was part of his charm), but nothing says so in G-canon.

 

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Go-Mer-Tonic  19595 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 10:20am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
I have given this a lot of thought, and have decided it's okay for Boba Fett to be a lady's man.

 

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TwiLekJedi  70038 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 10:36am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
The misnamed beverage hath spoken!

 

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DuracellEnergizer  368 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 11:42am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene - Date Edited: 7/23 11:43am (1 edits total) Edited By: DuracellEnergizer
DarthIktomi posted:
But was he a monk in G-canon? I mean, yeah, he's celibate in Tales of the Bounty Hunters (and that actually was part of his charm), but nothing says so in G-canon.


Not in G-canon, no. But frankly, I'm one of those people that are more than a little ticked off that Lucas didn't bother to make his films consistent with the EU.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26473 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 1:29pm Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
Honestly, I think Lucas rubberstamps most EU proposals. That's sure how it seems to me. He probably wasn't even thinking when he approved it that he'd have to work within those limitations down the line. Consequently, when the SE rolled around, he just ignored them, because that's how he is.

But eh, I've never really minded the human touch it adds to Fett, so take my opinion as you will. tongue

 

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DuracellEnergizer  368 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 2:14pm Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
Dark Lady Mara posted:
Honestly, I think Lucas rubberstamps most EU proposals. That's sure how it seems to me. He probably wasn't even thinking when he approved it that he'd have to work within those limitations down the line. Consequently, when the SE rolled around, he just ignored them, because that's how he is.


Well, with all the strict rules and regulations you'd have to go through to just to get your story accepted and published - to be accepted as "canon" - you'd think that your material would be taken into consideration when a new series of films go into production.

If Lucas never was going to consider the EU when making his films then why not just label them non-canon and avoid any backlash that might result in the first place?

 

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TwiLekJedi  70038 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 3:32pm Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
Eh, there is no rules and regulations to get your story approved, there is rules and regulations to be approved as author. The story comes afterwards.

 

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DarthIktomi  1380 posts
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Date Posted: 7/24 12:19am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
DuracellEnergizer:
Not in G-canon, no. But frankly, I'm one of those people that are more than a little ticked off that Lucas didn't bother to make his films consistent with the EU.

Hey, I like it because before Traviss, Boba was the Mary Sue in many a male-written fanfic. A virginal Fett jossed most of them. Also, it was an inversion of Farmboy in the EU.

TwiLekJedi:
No rules? You can't have Luke, Leia, or Han die. You can't have them go Sith without George's approval. You have to consult Leland Chee before killing off any character. You can get shavit past the censors, but don't go too hard; I think Invincible is as far as you can go.

 

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TwiLekJedi  70038 posts
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Date Posted: 7/24 6:18am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
That's what I meant with "the story comes afterwards". DE made it sound like Allston, Denning, Luceno, Traviss write their stories and hope LFL accepts them. According to the many interviews, the actual stories don't get approved as such, but are discussed with Leland, Rostoni and all those other people on the Acknowledgement page. Story ideas have to go through the process, not (nearly) finished works.

Maybe I misunderstood DE, but it sounded ... well, wrong.

 

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DuracellEnergizer  368 posts
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Date Posted: 7/24 7:42am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene - Date Edited: 7/24 7:44am (1 edits total) Edited By: DuracellEnergizer
TwiLekJedi posted:
That's what I meant with "the story comes afterwards". DE made it sound like Allston, Denning, Luceno, Traviss write their stories and hope LFL accepts them. According to the many interviews, the actual stories don't get approved as such, but are discussed with Leland, Rostoni and all those other people on the Acknowledgement page. Story ideas have to go through the process, not (nearly) finished works.

Maybe I misunderstood DE, but it sounded ... well, wrong.


I'm aware that complete manuscripts are rarely, if ever, written out before the storyline is pitched to whomever it may concern. I'm just saying that I consider it very inconsiderate for Lucas to completely ignore the work of writers which he himself put his stamp of approval on. It's something of an unfair double standard : EU writers have to conform 100% to the vision of GL - even if what they wish to create doesn't conflict with canon already established at that point - but Lucas himself doesn't have to conform with what others wrote before - even if he approved what they wrote back then!

Of course, if Lucas had just said back in Day 1 that the EU was completely non-canon then I wouldn't have a problem. But instead he had to make everything ambiguous, with his convoluted G & C-canons and so on and so forth.

 

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DarthJohnkenobi  944 posts
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Date Posted: 7/24 3:03pm Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene

DuracellEnergizer posted:
It's something of an unfair double standard : EU writers have to conform 100% to the vision of GL - even if what they wish to create doesn't conflict with canon already established at that point - but Lucas himself doesn't have to conform with what others wrote before - even if he approved what they wrote back then!


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DuracellEnergizer  368 posts
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Date Posted: 7/24 10:01pm Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
DarthJohnkenobi posted:
It's good to be the King.


You do know what happened to Charles I, don't you? tongue

 

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TwiLekJedi  70038 posts
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Date Posted: 7/25 7:22am Subject: The Boba Fett ROTJ-SE Dancer Flirt Scene
So, the timing of TTT and Boba's past was mucked up, but their retcons are a million times better than some of the nonsense that's contained entirely within the EU.
And having a few hundred Jedi still running around after they were "hunted down and wiped out" is a bigger offense than even Lucas can willfully (and not just ignorantly, if that's a word) commit.

There are no continuity problems in Star Wars mischief

 

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