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MaeveSkywalker Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 3/6 12:15pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	I will never understand why Lucas retouched, added scenes and re-released these movies. I remember when I was a kid and first saw them at the movies. I thought they were fine the way they were. I guess the reason he did it was maybe to try to equal the quality of the prequels, oh and maybe to make some "dough" as well. -----signature----- "The Force is strong in this one."
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timmoishere Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 3/7 1:29pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	He did it because there were things he wanted to do in the originals but couldn't because of the limits of technology at the time. Jabba, for example. -----signature----- Will do moose stuff for money. Everything tastes better wrapped in bacon, especially bacon 11/20/2008: The day I married the most wonderful woman in the world.
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han_solo_321 Registered: Dec '02	Date Posted: 3/20 8:28pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued??? - Date Edited: 3/20 8:29pm (1 edits total) Edited By: han_solo_321
	How can anyone be happy with the crap of a release of the 2004 DVD's? Have you even listened to the horrible sound mixes? and TESB is nothing but a blue mess. Go Adywan your my hero! -----signature----- Star Wars IS Forever! SW 3 Revenge Of The Sith IS the best star wars movie! Return of the King is the best NON SW Movie Ever made! Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic is the BEST game ever made! LOST is the Best TV Show Ever!
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Darthbane2007 Registered: Oct '07	Date Posted: 3/20 9:26pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	Darth-Davo posted: Title I'm surprised, because Adywan's project for his massive overhaul of Star Wars has been going on for ages. And his complete cut of EPIV is freely available for download. What I want to know is how come 20th century fox/lucasfilm haven't made any attempt to stop Adywan or cease the distribution of his edits. I like the edits personally, but i am perplexed as how someone can go on so long, offering star wars for free, without the lawyers catching up with him. As long as he isn't recieving money for his edited film, He can do whatever the heck he likes.
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voodoopuuduu Title: Classic Trilogy Trivia Host Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 3/23 8:10am Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued??? - Date Edited: 3/23 8:11am (1 edits total) Edited By: voodoopuuduu
	han_solo_321 posted: How can anyone be happy with the crap of a release of the 2004 DVD's? Have you even listened to the horrible sound mixes? and TESB is nothing but a blue mess. Go Adywan your my hero! Wait a minute, lets be fair. The sound in the movie theaters and drive-ins where they were originally shown in 1977 - 1983 was very, very crappy. Couple that with the annoying kiddie cries and chit chat that goes on in theaters, and the sound on the 2004's DVDs is light years better than that, heh. -----signature----- Winner CT Trivia Challenge 44, 54 Winner PT Trivia Challenge 10 , 13, 14, 17 Joint-Winner CT Challenge 49 and 50, PT Challange 18
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Billy_Dee_Binks Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 3/23 9:07am Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	I'm caught in twilight with Adywan's edits. I really wish LFL/ ILM would make a lot of these edits for their official Blu-Ray release. The improved colors/ contrasts, the edits of many many continuity errors and so on are really necessary for the simple fact that these movies have to stand the test of being watched over and over. You could get away with a faulty shot in a movie theater, but that's not gonna work for repetitive viewings. Especially because of the low production costs ANH suffers from the most continuity errors. So I'm glad he devoted himself to do this to such a refined degree and I hope LFL takes a hint. However, I find a lot of his personal additions/ changes unnecessary and distracting, maybe for the simple fact they are fan edits and not those of GL. I loved the little music addition while Vader is choking Admiral Motti. It's probably the best personal addition of his. -----signature----- I like all six Star Wars Episodes equally.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 3/23 10:04am Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	voodoopuuduu posted: Wait a minute, lets be fair. The sound in the movie theaters and drive-ins where they were originally shown in 1977 - 1983 was very, very crappy. Couple that with the annoying kiddie cries and chit chat that goes on in theaters, and the sound on the 2004's DVDs is light years better than that, heh. Well, I wasn't there so I can't say for sure, but as I understand it the sound at least came out of the correct stereo channels. And I'm pretty sure, given the whole Oscar thing, that the sound effects didn't drown out John Williams's score the way they do on the DVDs. -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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ILuvJarJar Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 4/1 6:59pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	GrandAdmiral_Frank posted: Lucas is sitting on six billion I believe, it is a mere speeder bike attacking his AT-AT walker. Or like a Jawa vs. a Rancor. -----signature----- ROTJ < ESB < ATOC < ANH < ROTS < TPM < TCW Star Wars Battlefront Elite Squadrons: Fall 2009 Proud President of the Salacious Crumb fanclub Star Wars>>>>>>>>My Social Life It is well worth it.....
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ShaneP Title: Lucasfilm Projects Gremlin(Manager ) Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 4/2 2:26pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	Some of adywan's enhancements were so subtle and cool(eyeblinks on cantina characters, radar dish on Falcon) I wondered why Lucas didnt do the same to begin with. But other changes were completely unneccessary, IMHO(PT music in the film, some fx work and editing). But as long as it remains free of charge I say more power to him and welcome his ROTJ edit. -----signature----- Keep Your Words Sweet. You May Have To Eat Them.
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BanthaBait Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 7/9 1:19pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	Darth Dark Helmet posted: As long as doesn't charge anything, he can stay out of trouble. Depends on "trouble". Legally it's still infringement, but it's up to Lucasfilm to choose whether to institute an action or whether to ignore it. Darthdias posted: As far as I understand, it is legal as long as its free You understand incorrectly. It is quite clearly in violation of the license supplied with the video content and in violation of Copyright law. Darthbane2007 posted: As long as he isn't recieving money for his edited film, He can do whatever the heck he likes. A common "fact" thrown out (and believed by most) that is utterly wrong. Show me where the license to the film for your VHS/DVD copy says this. jedimasterbac posted: "Free" is basically the key word. Lucasfilm doesn't generally take issue with this sort of thing so long as money is not being made. That's the summation. Just because LucasFilm doesn't choose to make a civil or criminal action out of it, doesn't make it non-infringing. And it doesn't void their right to pursue civil action in the future for other infringement. TheLionheart posted: We need someone well versed in copyright laws to steer us to the right direction. Ok... United States Code, Title 17: § 106. Exclusive rights in copyrighted works Subject to sections 107 through 122, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following: (1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords; (2) to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work; ... § 501. Infringement of copyright (a) Anyone who violates any of the exclusive rights of the copyright owner as provided by sections 106 through 122 or of the author as provided in section 106A(a)... is an infringer of the copyright or right of the author, as the case may be... b) The legal or beneficial owner of an exclusive right under a copyright is entitled, subject to the requirements of section 411, to institute an action for any infringement of that particular right committed while he or she is the owner of it... Notice that LucasFilm is "entitled" to institute an action, not "required" to. The rights for "reproducing" and "preparing a derivative work," and for authorizing of such, make no restrictions on whether the reproduction is offered for free, or for a charge. "Free" only makes a difference in determining penalties -- not in determining whether it's infringing or not (despite most of the populace believing the latter). When it's for free, it's generally (depending on the exact conditions) not a criminal action, merely a civil one -- but it's still infringement, and still can be criminal. The "I can do whatever I want" attitude is incorrect. When you buy a videotape or a DVD, you are purchasing a piece of plastic AND a license that specifies what you may or may not do with what is encoded on the plastic. Anything not covered in the license is an infringing use. As an extreme (and ridiculous) example, if the license were to say you can only watch it in your own home on Tuesdays, then watching it on a Thursday would be in violation of the license you purchased. It's not a matter of "I've paid for it, I can do whatever I want with it as long as it is for 'personal use' and not for financial gain" no matter how many people want to believe that's the case. "Fair use" as provided in the laws does not include "personal use" (except for the specified case of backup archives of computer programs).
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 7/9 1:40pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	BanthaBait posted: jedimasterbac posted: "Free" is basically the key word. Lucasfilm doesn't generally take issue with this sort of thing so long as money is not being made. That's the summation. Just because LucasFilm doesn't choose to make a civil or criminal action out of it, doesn't make it non-infringing. And it doesn't void their right to pursue civil action in the future for other infringement. Right, they still have the right to, they just typically don't. They could sue over fan fiction if they wanted to. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 7/9 3:02pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	When "The Phantom Edit" came out years ago, Lucas did see the film. He said that he wasn't bothered by it. He was a bit amused, if I recall. The only thing he ever expressed was that he didn't want anyone to profit from it and so LFL's lawyers issued a cease and desist based on the sales factor. Not because people were watching it. About a year later, Lucas authorized fan films and contests for it. So he's cool with it, based on the idea that there isn't a profit to be had. In the matter of the SE's, for the poster who doesn't understand why, Lucas said in a 1977 Rolling Stone interview, that he was not satisfied with the final cut of the film. While everyone else saw a masterpiece, all he could see was the flaws. The things he didn't have the time and money to pull off. Much less the technology. That's why when he looked at what ILM could do with the dinosaurs in "Jurassic Park", he said that he could now do the films the way he wanted. The company had finally caught up to his imagination. And around 1994, when the subject of re-releasing ANH for the 20th anniversary came up, Lucas decided that would the time to make the changes. "Forrest Gump" came out and once again, he saw how he could do the Jabba scenes. As to the changes in 04, some of those things may be what he wanted to do. Stuff like the sound mix, the alteration of the Lightsabers and some of the blaster bolts. That doesn't exactly make them errors. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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Alexrd Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 7/9 4:48pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	i don't know if it has already been mencioned, but many people at LucasFilm, including Dave Filoni, already saw ANH: Revisited, and they liked it.
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obi-rob-kenobi4 Registered: Apr '07	Date Posted: 7/11 12:20pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	darth-sinister posted: When "The Phantom Edit" came out years ago, Lucas did see the film. He said that he wasn't bothered by it. He was a bit amused, if I recall. The only thing he ever expressed was that he didn't want anyone to profit from it and so LFL's lawyers issued a cease and desist based on the sales factor. Not because people were watching it. About a year later, Lucas authorized fan films and contests for it. So he's cool with it, based on the idea that there isn't a profit to be had. In the matter of the SE's, for the poster who doesn't understand why, Lucas said in a 1977 Rolling Stone interview, that he was not satisfied with the final cut of the film. While everyone else saw a masterpiece, all he could see was the flaws. The things he didn't have the time and money to pull off. Much less the technology. That's why when he looked at what ILM could do with the dinosaurs in "Jurassic Park", he said that he could now do the films the way he wanted. The company had finally caught up to his imagination. And around 1994, when the subject of re-releasing ANH for the 20th anniversary came up, Lucas decided that would the time to make the changes. "Forrest Gump" came out and once again, he saw how he could do the Jabba scenes. As to the changes in 04, some of those things may be what he wanted to do. Stuff like the sound mix, the alteration of the Lightsabers and some of the blaster bolts. That doesn't exactly make them errors. Exactly. -----signature----- "You call THIS a diplomatic solution?" "No, I call it aggressive negotiations." so this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause..... who am I, where am I going? -Tony Soprano
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Darthbane2007 Registered: Oct '07	Date Posted: 7/11 7:43pm Subject: How Does Adywan Get Away With His Edits Without Being Sued???
	As long as there isn't a PROFIT being made, George Lucas and Lucasfilm doesn't care what you do.
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