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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 2/7 8:07pm Subject: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion - Date Edited: 2/7 8:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
	PLEASE NOTE: This thread is not suggesting that a remake of the original trilogy has been announced, nor is it suggesting that one is being developed. This thread is simply to discuss the possibility of the remake, and to have a general discussion on what a remake of the trilogy could do and how it might work. The original OT Remake thread asked the question of whether or not the original trilogy should be remade, so this new thread is designed to be less narrow in scope. We all know how it is these days: a lot of movies are being remade left and right. A lot of film series, such as James Bond, Batman, The Incredible Hulk, and Halloween, are getting straight up “reboots” (aka, restarting the franchise). One remake has never, and probably never will, happen, and that’s a remake of the original Star Wars trilogy. A lot of people had said that it should be remade so it better matches with the prequels, although there is also the counter-argument that the prequels should have been made to match with the originals. Whatever the answer to that may be, the idea of an original trilogy remake has either interested people or terrified them. This thread is to discuss all about a potential remake. Some possible topics for discussion: - What are the pros and cons of an original trilogy remake? - Why should/shouldn’t the original trilogy be remade? - What would be the implications of an original trilogy remake on the original trilogy, the Star Wars Saga and cinema as a whole? - How would an original trilogy remake work? Would you want the same exact story, or would you want a reboot/re-imagining akin to Batman Begins and Casino Royale? - What might an original trilogy remake look like? - Who would you cast in an original trilogy remake? - Anything else relating to an original trilogy remake is fair game for discussion. So there you go. Have at it! -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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Darthbane2007 Registered: Oct '07	Date Posted: 2/8 10:50am Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	I'm just going to say, No.
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 2/8 11:23am Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	I have a bad feeling about this... (thread) -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 2/8 11:38am Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	Darthbane2007 posted: I'm just going to say, No. Ironically, we made the thread in the hopes that would stop. The thread title isn't even asking "should?" anymore... -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 2/8 11:57am Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	Well, here we go. Let's see how long this thread stays civil... - What are the pros and cons of an original trilogy remake? Pros: Better sound quality for ANH. Cons: Tarnishes the memory and charm of the OT as it is now. - Why should/shouldn’t the original trilogy be remade? It's fine as the piece of history it is now. Anything else would be a cheap copy, even if made by George himself. - What would be the implications of an original trilogy remake on the original trilogy, the Star Wars Saga and cinema as a whole? It would cheapen the whole Star Wars movie franchise. Movie making of today isn't as sincere as it was back in 1977, if you ask me. - How would an original trilogy remake work? Would you want the same exact story, or would you want a reboot/re-imagining akin to Batman Begins and Casino Royale? Same story, same dialog, same everything. It would have to have different actors, of course. - What might an original trilogy remake look like? See the PT. - Who would you cast in an original trilogy remake? Unknown. - Anything else relating to an original trilogy remake is fair game for discussion. I have a bad feeling about it. The OT has already been nitpicked and had key scenes changed. Don't dig it up any more. -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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DarthLassic007 Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 2/8 12:46pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	A lot of things would be different. Ben might survive ANH. Boba would have a bigger role. Palpatine would be in ANH and have a bigger role in TESB. Luke and Leia wouldn't kiss. Stuff like that. -----signature----- Veni, Vidi, Vici. - Julius Caesar
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 2/8 1:42pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	TwiLekJedi posted: Darthbane2007 posted: I'm just going to say, No. Ironically, we made the thread in the hopes that would stop. The thread title isn't even asking "should?" anymore... jedimasterbac posted: - Why should/shouldn’t the original trilogy be remade? Clarification, please? -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 2/8 2:02pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	Merlin_Ambrosius69 posted: TwiLekJedi posted: Darthbane2007 posted: I'm just going to say, No. Ironically, we made the thread in the hopes that would stop. The thread title isn't even asking "should?" anymore... jedimasterbac posted: - Why should/shouldn’t the original trilogy be remade? Clarification, please? That's asking WHY should it or shouldn't it be remade, not "should it be remade". The problem with the old thread was that the topic was "should the OT be remade", thus giving us 1,000 posts that said nothing more than NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO which was, essentially, spam. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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GrandAdmiral_Frank Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 2/8 2:21pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	I believe that there are certain films that will never be remade and Star Wars is one of them. I believe we'll see another addition to the serious before we'd see those films remade. You never can be certain about that though because who is to say what will happen but I will say that we won't see it in our time. Imagine in the future the technology to digitally recreate an actor by appearance and voice and just throw them in a movie? Anyways I imagine it would be something similar to the PT. -----signature----- Member of the Han Solo and Chewbacca FanClub Member of the TFF Winner of the PT Rewrite Challenge Four "Don't make me destroy you"-Darth Vader, The Empire Strikes Back
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 2/8 2:35pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion - Date Edited: 2/8 2:36pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Merlin_Ambrosius69
	jedimasterbac posted: That's asking WHY should it or shouldn't it be remade, not "should it be remade". The problem with the old thread was that the topic was "should the OT be remade", thus giving us 1,000 posts that said nothing more than NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO which was, essentially, spam. That's a good point. Explaining one's reasoning makes a far better basis for discussion. I object to a re-make, largely because the best possible shot compositions, musical cues, arrangement of shots, pacing, dialogue, line readings, and many other creative decisions, have already been contemplated and discussed among the filmmakers, decided upon, and produced. There is no better way to shoot and assemble the Trench Run, the Bespin Duel, the meeting in the Throne Room. There is no more powerful way to film, record or assemble Kenobi's death, Vader's revelation, or Luke's lightsaber barrage. In a remake, such indelible and iconic moments would either be staged entirely differently for the sake of novelty, which is creative bankruptcy, or staged as a clumsy "homage" to the source material, which is tiresome and pointless. That said, I'm interested to see where proponents of this idea will take it, and how they will explain and explore the opinion that any scene in any OT movie could be better crafted than that which already exists. Predictable targets will of course be the Kenobi-Vader Duel and the Battle of Endor, but even if those sequences need a modicum of tweaking to make them more convincing or exciting, remaking the entire Trilogy based on a few fans' perceptions of flaws in one or two scenes seems like throwing the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 2/8 6:29pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	To chime in here again, you'd have to ask yourself: why would it need to be remade? To make it better? Is that even possible? It could be made differently, but a lot of times change is just that: change. Not better, not worse, just... different. I think some of the changes made to the OT fall into that category already. I can't think of anything about the OT I'd want to be changed. Well, I'd like the sound of ANH to be as good as the other two movies. It's noticeably inferior in spots. But that's not a remake, just a touch up of what's already there. -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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BaronFel88 Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 2/8 6:57pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	The space theatre of the Battle of Endor needs to be re-edited. So many misaligned call signs and scenes. -----signature----- "Oh the pain" "What a disgrace" -Joe Benigno
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 2/9 12:44pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	^ ^ ^ Okay, but "re-edited" is not "remade." If we want to talk about reassembling pre-existing scenes into new cuts, this isn't the thread for that, methinks. -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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StarWarrior77 Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 2/9 1:01pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion - Date Edited: 2/9 1:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: StarWarrior77
	I hope I die before someone makes a remake of the OT...... I'm a fan of Prequels and Sequels, but I'm not a fan of remakes. -----signature----- "Star Wars is not dead. It's gonna get better and better."-George Lucas "Star Wars is Forever, Roger. And you can Suck it." -Jimmy Mac Visit: http://z3.invisionfree.com/Star_Wars_Online/index.php
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 2/11 12:08pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	I'll take a dig. Or five. - What are the pros and cons of an original trilogy remake? Pro: New Star Wars films, this time without any cynical manuevering from 20th Century Fox trying to take control of the franchise, thereby allowing George to concentrate on making the films. Con: Beyond that alot of people would start whining about Lucas offering their inner children puppies if they'll get into his tinted-windows van, I really can't think of any. - Why should/shouldn’t the original trilogy be remade? See above. - What would be the implications of an original trilogy remake on the original trilogy, the Star Wars Saga and cinema as a whole? Well-George has obviously adopted alot of newer opinions about his original three films in the last thirty years; they might turn out very, very differently now. Beyond that I can't say. - How would an original trilogy remake work? Would you want the same exact story, or would you want a reboot/re-imagining akin to Batman Begins and Casino Royale? I'd like a re-imagining, personally. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 2/11 3:43pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Classic Trilogy remake discussion
	The most unfortunate part of an OT remake is George will bury the originals. He'll call them drafts, but this time not offer them at all, bonus disc or not. At least tinkering with the OT means we still get the OT, sort of. A total redo would effectively erase them from history. I can't tell you how unacceptable that would be. -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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