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_Sublime_Skywalker_  3874 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18 12:48am Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
So what did Luke have against womp rats?

I'm willing to guess the womp rats said some derogatory remarks about "his moma".

Also, isn't killing/ torturing small defenseless animals the first sign of someone who needs some serious help?

 

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Merlin_Ambrosius69  1974 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18 8:54am Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Also, isn't killing/ torturing small defenseless animals the first sign of someone who needs some serious help?

Maybe, but then so is posting in a thread without reading the previous comments.

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morpha2  745 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18 2:43pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Better than bullseye-ing Jawas, I suppose.

 
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DarthBoba  33067 posts
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Date Posted: 2/18 4:20pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
If there were large numbers of six-foot-long("I used to bulls-eye womp rats back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.") rodents near where I lived, you bet they'd be on the priority list of things to get rid of. tongue

 

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Angel_Blue01  351 posts
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Date Posted: 2/19 5:46am Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
DarthBoba posted:
If there were large numbers of six-foot-long("I used to bulls-eye womp rats back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.") rodents near where I lived, you bet they'd be on the priority list of things to get rid of. tongue


Exactly!

 

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TaunTaunHerder  448 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 2:03pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Angel_Blue01 posted:
DarthBoba posted:
If there were large numbers of six-foot-long("I used to bulls-eye womp rats back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.") rodents near where I lived, you bet they'd be on the priority list of things to get rid of. tongue


Exactly!


Then,um, whatever the Womp rats eat would become over-populated and whatever eats
Womp rats would become extinct. You can't upset the balance of nature over fear.

Sure, if there is a Womp rats in or near your house, then kill it, but going out to Beggar's Canyon
where there are no human settlements to target-practice on Womp rats is simply wrong.

I never saw Mos Espa, Lars' homestead, any Tusken Raider camps, Ben's humble abode, or Mos Eisley overrun with Womp rats.

If Womp rats were wiped out, then the Sand People would be more likely ro raid human settlements looking for food.


Live and let live.


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TwiLekJedi  70053 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 2:31pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Fortunately, there are no hippies on Tatooine tongue

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 2:43pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats? - Date Edited: 2/22 2:45pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Master_Starwalker
There was that one guy who talked about this weird energy field, tried to live in balance with nature, and was drunk all the time.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26473 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 5:14pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
I really take issue with the arbitrary designation of some species as vermin and others as not - any animal can carry disease, household pets and other people included - but sadly it's a pretty universal human tendency to find specific animals to vilify.

I do think the implication of the movie, though, isn't that Luke's killing them because he thinks they're "vermin;" he kills them for sport. He is not Jedi-like in ANH.

 

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Merlin_Ambrosius69  1974 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 5:45pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Disease ridden or no, womp rats are over six feet long, spiney and betoothed, as evidenced in the opening post. In the already harsh and hostile environment of Tatooine, a creature of this size and offensive disposition (as further indicated by its name, concordant with a striking action, as in "to womp") needs to be eradicated from all civilized areas. Otherwise injuries to the locals and the disappearances of small (or medium-sized!) children are likely to occur.

For all we know, the womp rat is a disease-ridden and violent monster whose numbers must be kept in check lest they overrun the local farms with gore drizzling from their slavering toothsome maws. Sure, it might be a docile, tender-hearted nurturer of all that is beautiful and kind, but with at least two options before us, why conclude that Luke is a reprehensible animal murderer? I for one don't see him that way, and I'm not likely to accept an interpretation of his character that paints him as such.

 

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rsterling78  4926 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 6:17pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Merlin_Ambrosius69 posted:
In the already harsh and hostile environment of Tatooine, a creature of this size and offensive disposition (as further indicated by its name, concordant with a striking action, as in "to womp") needs to be eradicated from all civilized areas. Otherwise injuries to the locals and the disappearances of small (or medium-sized!) children are likely to occur.


That sort of puts this in a different light.

 
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jedimasterbac  6270 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 7:49pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Raider88 posted:
What do hunters have against deer?


This was my first reaction to the OP's question.

 

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TaunTaunHerder  448 posts
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Date Posted: 2/23 9:51am Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats? - Date Edited: 2/23 9:54am (2 edits total) Edited By: TaunTaunHerder
I think this ends the debate once and for all.

This is from Wookieepedia;

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The womp rat was a large, omnivorous rodent native to Tatooine. It was widely considered to be a pest. They were slightly larger than two meters in size. There were three races of womp rats: ones that lived in Beggar's Canyon, ones that lived in the Jundland Wastes, and swamp womp rats. It was not unheard of for people to have domesticated womp rats as pets, but Luke Skywalker and his friends used to "bulls-eye" womp rats with stun blasts, while flying T-16 skyhoppers, for fun and target practice.

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Disease-ridden? Some people had them for pets.

Luke killed them? He only stunned them.

Now, I can lay my head at night knowing that creatures in their own environment
were not senselessly slaughtered so Luke can practice someday to blow up a Death Star
that he didn't even know existed at the time in question.

But, I have another question.

Where on Tatooine are the swamps that the swamp Womps rats lived in?

I do know there is at least one large body of water on Tatooine as clouds
can clearly be seen above the Dune Sea when R2-D2 and C-3PO are wondering over it.

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StormtrooperSyndrome  143 posts
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Date Posted: 2/23 11:28am Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
TaunTaunHerder posted:

Where on Tatooine are the swamps that the swamp Womps rats lived in?

I do know there is at least one large body of water on Tatooine as clouds
can clearly be seen above the Dune Sea when R2-D2 and C-3PO are wondering over it.

grin


Hmm... flying womp rats? tongue

I'd guess that some womp rats were taken to another planet (maybe as someone's exotic pets) and adapted to wetter conditions in their new home. To someone from Tatooine, any place with more moisture than the Sahara would probably qualify as a swamp.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26473 posts
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Date Posted: 2/23 1:44pm Subject: RE: So what did Luke have against womp rats?
Hmm. So Luke and his friends were hunting when they shot at womprats, but they didn't kill the animals? Sounds like a G-rated Lucas retcon along the lines of "Greedo shot first" to me. tongue

 

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