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commander-oddball 
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Date Posted: 2/21 2:35pm Subject: lando the traitor
is it racist at all that the only african-american guy in the origional trilogy is the traitor?

 

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Master_Starwalker  17414 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 2:44pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor - Date Edited: 2/21 2:44pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Master_Starwalker
Nope. Lando's original choice is a noble one from a certain perspective. He's responsible for everyone who lives on Cloud City and as Baron-Administrator he has to put their needs first. He's not happy about having to sacrifice Han, but he thought that one man being frozen was less important than an entire city being destroyed. Of course, once Lando realizes that Vader is going to keep altering the deal, he realizes that what's best for Cloud City is to tell the citizenry what's happening (as that gives them a chance to escape before the Empire's iron fist closes around the city) and try to save Leia, Chewbacca, and hopefully Han.

 

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Dark--Helmet  294 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 4:12pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
No,it's more of a grayish chose that Lando makes and I could see anybody doing what he did.Just remember the 3 main bad guys in the OT movies are white guys.

 

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timmoishere  7796 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 4:25pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
It's not racist at all. In fact, if you are using his skin color as an explanation for his actions, that means you are the racist one.

 

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commander-oddball 
Registered: Feb '09
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Date Posted: 2/21 4:38pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
im not being racist! shame_on_you i merely made the observation that hes the only black dude, and that he ended up being the traitor!
P.S. i thank the others who answered, i never looked at it that way before applause

 

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GuNgAnFaN3090  6712 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 4:42pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
Lando did what he had to, he learned the error of his ways. I like Lando. happy

 

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rsterling78  4884 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 4:53pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
The Empire establishing a garrison at Cloud City was a clear-cut case of The Man trying to keep The Brother down.

 

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Qui-Gon_Reborn  5538 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 5:47pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
No, it's not racist. Nor is Lando a traitor.

 

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Gurthrim_Lah  730 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 10:53pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
Lando is not a traitor, he wasn't a part of the rebellion on cloud city, and he didn't swear an alliance with Han Solo (or anything like that) Lando did what he thought was best for his people.

 

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CooperTFN  4578 posts
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Date Posted: 2/21 11:05pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
Lando is victorious on all fronts.

 

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Darthbane2007  1373 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 6:37am Subject: RE: lando the traitor
commander-oddball posted:
is it racist at all that the only african-american guy in the origional trilogy is the traitor?


Yeah man! Vader and the Empire wanted to stop Lando's illegal Marijuana and Cocaine shipping operation because it was one of the largest in that part of the galaxy.

 

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jedibri  4109 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 10:30am Subject: RE: lando the traitor
To me Lando redeemed himslef. Which was one of the PT staory lines.

 

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Merlin_Ambrosius69  1931 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 4:21pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
Master_Starwalker posted:
Nope. Lando's original choice is a noble one from a certain perspective. He's responsible for everyone who lives on Cloud City and as Baron-Administrator he has to put their needs first. He's not happy about having to sacrifice Han, but he thought that one man being frozen was less important than an entire city being destroyed. Of course, once Lando realizes that Vader is going to keep altering the deal, he realizes that what's best for Cloud City is to tell the citizenry what's happening (as that gives them a chance to escape before the Empire's iron fist closes around the city) and try to save Leia, Chewbacca, and hopefully Han.


This! applause

 

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jedimasterbac  6237 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 7:39pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor
I basically agree with what's been said. Lando wasn't a traitor, he was doing the best thing for his city. He only appears to be a traitor because what he does puts the heroes into danger, but you need to look deeper than the black/white outlook of the Star Wars Saga. There are shades of gray in the Star Wars films, and this is one of them. On the one hand, he put our heroes into danger, and nearly cost two of them (Luke and Han) their lives. On the other hand, however, he did everything to make sure the however many citizens of Cloud City were safe and not under Imperial rule. Sure, they did go under Imperial rule, but that was just because of Vader constantly changing the conditions of the agreement.

 

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timmoishere  7796 posts
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Date Posted: 2/22 11:17pm Subject: RE: lando the traitor - Date Edited: 2/24 1:42pm (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
Holden: Ah, c'mon, that's a bunch of *********! Lando Calrissian was a black guy, y'know, he got to fly the Millennium Falcon! What's the matter with you!
Hooper: Who said that?
Holden: I did. Lando Calrissian is a positive role-model in the realm of science fiction fantasy.
Hooper: Hey, **** Lando Calrissian! Uncle-Tom ******, heh. Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy trilogy. Bust this! Those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother-man down--even in a galaxy far far away. Check this ****. You got cracker farmboy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy blond hair blue eyes. Then you got Darth Vader, blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian god!
Banky: What's a nubian?
Hooper: Shut the **** up! Now. Vader, he's a spiritual brother, down with the force and all that good ****. Then this cracker Skywalker gets his hands on a lightsaber, and the boy decides HE'S gonna run the whole ****ing universe! Gets a whole KLAN of whites together and they go bust up Vader's hood, the Death Star! Now what the **** do you call that?
Banky: Intergalatic civil war?
Hooper: Gentrification!! They gonna drive out the black element to make the galaxy quote-unquote safe for white folks! In "Jedi," the most insulting installment when Vader's beautiful black visage is SULLIED when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty old white man! They trying to tell us that deep inside, we all wants to be WHITE!!!
Banky: Well, isn't that true?

BAC EDIT: You need to star out that entire word in the first line.

 

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DRush76  440 posts
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Date Posted: 2/23 10:27am Subject: RE: lando the traitor - Date Edited: 2/23 10:31am (2 edits total) Edited By: DRush76
commander-oddball posted:
im not being racist! shame_on_you i merely made the observation that hes the only black dude, and that he ended up being the traitor!
P.S. i thank the others who answered, i never looked at it that way before applause



The question is do you believe that Lando was a traitor? If so, is it because the movie had failed to make it clear that Lando did not have much of a choice in choosing between Han's well being and the citizens of Bespin? And if so, I can understand. If not . . . did you expect him to sacrifice the citizens of Bespin for Han's well being?

 

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