Author Topic: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
rsterling78  4884 posts
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 3/23 5:01pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
yodas_waiter posted:
HAN: Wait. I can't see, pal. What's goin' on?
Chewie barks an excited blue streak.
What Chewie says: I have no idea. I was hoping would
HAN: Luke? Luke's crazy. He can't even take care of himself, much less rescue anybody.
Chewie barks a reply.
What Chewie says: Whaaaaaaaa?
HAN: A...Jedi Knight? I--I'm out of it for a little while, everybody gets delusions of grandeur. Chewie growls insistently. He holds Han to his chest and pets his head.
What Chewie says: Oh no. You're absolutly raving! I better take care of you

Han Solo: Now don't get jittery, Luke. There are a lot of command ships. Keep your distance, though, Chewie, but don't look like you're trying to keeping your distance.
[Chewie barks a question]
What Chewie says: I'll fly casual. Is that ok?
Han Solo: I don't know. Fly casual.


See, yodas_waiter is exactly right. Han thinks he has a firm grasp on the wookie language when he doesn't understand a damn word.

 

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TwiLekJedi  69991 posts
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Date Posted: 3/23 5:16pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
therufus posted:
How does one learn the African Click language? Or binary? Or German?


I do not like the implication of that particular list, junger Mann!
It should be Scottish.


Anyway, if you accept that a Wookiee's noises are a proper language, there is absolutely no problem with Han understanding it.
If your issue is with the roaring itself, Han does not matter either way. If it can't be a language, nobody will understand it.

 

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jedibri  4109 posts
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Date Posted: 3/24 2:57am Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
Well, you get the feeling in ANH they've been a team for quite some time. So they had a feel for how each acted & reacted. It's not that far fetched.

 

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General_BlackLegion  5486 posts
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Date Posted: 3/24 12:48pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
The fact is this. As much as realism seems improbable here for a man to understand and translate roars and grunts into practical words in real life (cause if you did like most of you here mentioned, then we can understand cats and dogs), we have to assume that the Wookiees were intelligent bipedal race in the Star Wars Universe and that if Han was raised by a Wookiee for most of his life, that it is greatly possible that he understood the language good enough for him to know what is going on with Chewie. Since the Wookiees are a sentient species, we will have to assume their language is understandable. Yet at the same time in support of my assumption, if Han can't understand Chewie's grunts, how does that explain that Anakin Skywalker could build C-3PO to understand Chewie as well??? C-3PO is a translator and he is programmed by someone that must be fluent with the Wookiee language so in that case, it is perfectly understandable that people can understand Wookiees. Remember STAR WARS is a SCIENCE-FICTION tale, not everything can be realistic here.

 

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gundarkhunter  760 posts
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Date Posted: 3/25 2:36pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
General_BlackLegion posted:
...how does that explain that Anakin Skywalker could build C-3PO to understand Chewie as well??? C-3PO is a translator and he is programmed by someone that must be fluent with the Wookiee language so in that case, it is perfectly understandable that people can understand Wookiees.


Not to go off topic here, but wouldn't that assumption require that Anakin be fluent in all of Threepio's six million+ forms of communication?

Personally, I think that Han can understand, if not speak, Shyriiwook. Shyriiwook as a language is only discussed in EU, but if the noises that Poggle the Lesser makes or even the beeps and whistles of a certain blue and white astromech can be construed as language, why not growls, barks or even mews?

Although, we living in our galaxy can't understand the language our pets speak, we do know when they are hungry, in pain or need to relieve themselves. Hmmm...

 

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LawJedi  450 posts
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Date Posted: 3/28 4:06pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
Palp_Faction posted:
I could understand what my dog was telling me when she was alive. Same thing. wink


No, that's schizophrenia. A good way of confirming this is if you can still hear that dog.

See? Schizophrenia.

 

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rich-narco  97 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29 1:44pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
rsterling78 posted:
If I hear someone speak Chinese, a language I don't understand, I won't know what is being said. But I will be able to recognize syllabification. I may not understand the content of what is being said, but I will recognize that a sequence of different and distinct sounds are forming words and sentences.

When Chewbacca speaks, I don't hear anything that sounds like a coherent language:

Han Solo: ”Chewie? Chewie, is that you?”
Chewbacca: "Grrrwwwrr!"
Han Solo: ”Ch-Chewie! I can’t see, pal. What’s going on?”
Chewbacca: "Grrrwwwrr!"
Han Solo: ”Luke? Luke’s crazy! He can’t even take care of himself, much less rescue anybody.”
Chewbacca: "Grrrwwwrr!"
Han Solo: ”A Jedi Knight? Jeez, I’m out of it for a little while, everyone gets delusions of grandeur!”

Sorry, Han, I'm not buying that you're understanding one word of what Chewie is saying. In fact, I'm not buying that Chewie is saying anything at all. By the way, where did you get the word "Jeez"? That's a somewhat politer form of the exclamation "Jesus!". How would you know that? But I digress...

Allegedly, the wookie language is called "Shyriiwook". Hey, I wonder what the wookie word for "Shyriiwook" is? I'm guessing it's "Grrrwwwrr!". According to the link, here's a Basic sentence and the Shyriiwook translation:

He says he's a Jedi Knight now.
Rowr ahragh awf ahraroww rowh rohngr grgrff rf rf.

Whatever.

I guess I'm just a skeptic. Or as a wookie would phrase it, "Grrrwwwrr!".


aaah - but you're missing the point of a movie! It's the "telling" of a story ..... the "real" story (which of course didn't exist but you suspend disbelief) - Basic doesn't sound like English, and Wookiee language may be a little more intelligible! As for "jeez" - remember.... it's the re-telling of a tale.... 'jeez' is an equivalence.

 

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ILuvJarJar  1394 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29 2:44pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
eht13 posted:
Grrrwwwrr!

 

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Ree  3676 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29 2:51pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
Yeah I don't buy it either. He can understand it but can't speak it. And Chewie can udnerstand Basic but can't speak it.

Its just a crap movie tool. Just like Steven Segal could understand Chinese but gee he can't speak it. I very highly doubt it.

 

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timmoishere  7796 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29 5:15pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
Human throats can't replicate the sounds of Shyriiwook, just like Wookiees can't replicate the sounds of Basic. That doesn't mean their ears don't work, though.

 

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Ree  3676 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31 4:09pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
You know we have little eletronic translators? You type in a word and it translates it for you. Well Han and Chewie need one with sound so it can talk back to the other person tongue

 

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drg4  808 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31 4:10pm Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
I don't know what's funnier: this thread, or a sound-recording of Han conversing with Chewie in Wookieese.

Han: "Rraaawwwwl."

Chewie: "Aaarrgghhh!"

Han: "Rwararah!!"

Chewie: "Aaaarrrahhh!!!"

 

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Angel_Blue01  351 posts
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Date Posted: 4/1 5:50am Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
I don't understand the point of this thread, I thought it was pretty clear that Chewie speaks in what sounds like barks to us but Han understands it.

 

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rich-narco  97 posts
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Date Posted: 4/3 5:19am Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
yodas_waiter posted:
Here's my personal theory


parsec a unit of distance? Technically it's a unit of spacetime..... and if you're tunneling through space - ie "hyperspace" you certainly COULD do something in less distance. That's kind of the point...

but yeah - love the rest of it !

 

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MagicSpork  132 posts
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Date Posted: 4/5 9:26am Subject: Han understands Chewbacca? I don't buy it!
Uhh, there's only TWO W's in "Grrrwwrr", not three...jeez...

 

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