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vaders_cape Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 4/28 8:30pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	Fans might have been hoping for another new gizmo to feast their eyes on, but it's more than plausible that the Empire would have created another Death Star this time without the rather accessible weak point. Humans often repeat their mistakes - OFTEN. (The number of times towns are levelled by nature only to be rebuilt on the same spot, fault-line even!) I mean, how many ways can you blow up a planet? -----signature----- This thing of Darkness I acknowledge mine. There is nothing more confining than the prison we don't know we're in. - William Shakespeare
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 4/28 9:37pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	Here's a crazy idea. Instead of the Death Star II shooting a laser and destroying a planet, have it shoot some other form of energy which robs the planet of all oxygen. Yeah, that'd be cool. -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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XR8Falcon Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 4/28 10:07pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	To fit in with the story if there wasn't another Death Star then how about the Executor? The Empire finds out where the rebel fleet is and Vader picks up the Emperor from Coruscant on board the Executor because the Emperor wants to personally oversee the destruction of the rebel fleet. It parks in orbit near endor where its shields are augmented from a shield projector on the near by forest moon. Han a Leia and the Commandos do their thing with the ewoks disabling the shield generator. The Rebels jump in expecting the ship to be an easy target by itself. But after the rebels jump in a large attack force of Star Destroyers jumps in behind them and sandwiches the rebel between the Star Destroyers and the executor. After the Falcon and Wedge fly all along looking for the strongest power source on the surface of the ship which should be the shield projector of the Executor and take it out a stray A-Wing plummets into the control bridge and the Executor crashes into the moon killing the Emperor. Luke and Vader have thier fight as per normal on board the Executor. Vader wounds the Emperor and is crippled by the lightning still. Luke rescues him as per normal. The wounded Emporer then rides the Executor into the planet screaming as he goes. I just thought of that then. I reckon I prefer mine now. HAHAHA.
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BigBoy29 Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 4/29 12:05am Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	It would have been better to see Palps trying to fight off 25 rabid Ewoks in the forest. I wish he was taken alive ... and thrown in the forest with 25 ewoks bum-rushing him. That would have made the best ending ever. The 17th Ewok finally gets on his back and starts choking him out. STAR WARS bliss! -----signature----- Lando: "She saved me at the Battle of Tannabe". Han: "Hey remember, I won her fair and square." Lando: "She was mine before she was yours, she was mine before she was yours ..."
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Matt_201 Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 4/29 3:34am Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	XR8Falcon posted: To fit in with the story if there wasn't another Death Star then how about the Executor? The Empire finds out where the rebel fleet is and Vader picks up the Emperor from Coruscant on board the Executor because the Emperor wants to personally oversee the destruction of the rebel fleet. It parks in orbit near endor where its shields are augmented from a shield projector on the near by forest moon. Han a Leia and the Commandos do their thing with the ewoks disabling the shield generator. The Rebels jump in expecting the ship to be an easy target by itself. But after the rebels jump in a large attack force of Star Destroyers jumps in behind them and sandwiches the rebel between the Star Destroyers and the executor. After the Falcon and Wedge fly all along looking for the strongest power source on the surface of the ship which should be the shield projector of the Executor and take it out a stray A-Wing plummets into the control bridge and the Executor crashes into the moon killing the Emperor. Luke and Vader have thier fight as per normal on board the Executor. Vader wounds the Emperor and is crippled by the lightning still. Luke rescues him as per normal. The wounded Emporer then rides the Executor into the planet screaming as he goes. haha, I like it. But twist it around a bit, add a little Galactic Capital. 'Rebel Spies' learn that the Executor is the only ship in the system, and the Emperor himself will be on it (for a reason i can't think of). The rebels decide it's their time to attack the capital. All they have to do is take down the Executor and land their ground reinforcements to capture the planet. But of course it's a trap, and when the rebel fleet pulls out of hyperspace, they are surrounded by the imperial fleet. and a shield is surrounding the Executor. A small task force of Rebels (lead by Han/ Leia) manage to land on the planet's surface and, eventually, take out the shield generator. The whole Luke/Vader/Emperor thing happens aboard the Executor, but Luke and Vader defeat the Emperor, and escape the ship, before rebels (by use of a stray A-wing) take down the Executor, and send it crashing towards the planet. By chance (always by chance :P) the ship crashes into the Imperial Palace, destroying/killing a large part of the Imperial army. The Rebels (or what's left of them) land on the planet, and the Empire, realising what has happened, surrenders. There we go the massive space battle everyone wants along with attacking the Imperial Capital. -----signature----- So be it... Jedi
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DarthSeether Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 4/29 1:48pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	Matt_201 posted: haha, I like it. But twist it around a bit, add a little Galactic Capital. 'Rebel Spies' learn that the Executor is the only ship in the system, and the Emperor himself will be on it (for a reason i can't think of). The rebels decide it's their time to attack the capital. All they have to do is take down the Executor and land their ground reinforcements to capture the planet. But of course it's a trap, and when the rebel fleet pulls out of hyperspace, they are surrounded by the imperial fleet. and a shield is surrounding the Executor. A small task force of Rebels (lead by Han/ Leia) manage to land on the planet's surface and, eventually, take out the shield generator. The whole Luke/Vader/Emperor thing happens aboard the Executor, but Luke and Vader defeat the Emperor, and escape the ship, before rebels (by use of a stray A-wing) take down the Executor, and send it crashing towards the planet. By chance (always by chance :P) the ship crashes into the Imperial Palace, destroying/killing a large part of the Imperial army. The Rebels (or what's left of them) land on the planet, and the Empire, realising what has happened, surrenders. There we go the massive space battle everyone wants along with attacking the Imperial Capital. I think this would have been far better than what we got. it seems more intense and creative. The Executor makes a fine center piece, especially considering the real mission is to take out the emperor. the executor crashing into imperial palace reminds me of an episode of the old Captain Power series where an orbital weapons platform was destroyed and the bulk of it slammed right into volcania--the bad guy's main base. It was very cool. -----signature----- The misconceptions you had about Star Wars, when you were a kid: "As if millions of oysters had cried out in terror...and were suddenly silenced."
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XR8Falcon Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 4/29 6:33pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	The Coruscant scene is where the Executor docks with a skyhook to pick up the Emperor. Rebel spies learn of the Emperor being on board and let the Rebel fleet know. Rebel fleet finds the Executor in orbit around Endors moon and the rest is as I wrote it. I wouldn't pick the fight above Coruscant purely because it was done at the start of Revenge Of The Sith. When the Executor crashes into Endors moon I'd have it crash into a lake and just have the flaming control tower sticking out burning away so you know the Emperors dead.
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Go-Mer-Tonic Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 4/29 7:45pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	The great thing about having a second Death Star attack was all the ways he could play against the expectations setup by the first Death Star attack. Rebels: We'll just fly in there and hit the main generator and BAM! Lucas: It's a TRAP! -----signature----- "...that’s not my job, to make people like my movies. They either like them or they don’t. That’s completely out of my hands.” -Lucas "At least I will have finished what I set out to do, and at least they will have been good to me." -Lucas
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Badger_Legion Registered: Jan '08	Date Posted: 4/30 1:31am Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	I don't see how it plays in the audience's expectations. Sure the shield still being up put a kink in the rebels' plans, but once it went down it pretty much played out the same as in ANH. Their small fighters go through a series of tunnels (not all that different from a series of trenches) then they hit the stations weak point and it exploded. Not really any big differences except the shield temporarily preventing them from making their attack run.
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DarthSeether Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 5/1 12:20pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	Badger_Legion posted: I don't see how it plays in the audience's expectations. Sure the shield still being up put a kink in the rebels' plans, but once it went down it pretty much played out the same as in ANH. Their small fighters go through a series of tunnels (not all that different from a series of trenches) then they hit the stations weak point and it exploded. Not really any big differences except the shield temporarily preventing them from making their attack run. exactly. adding a third dimension to the trench does not make it all that different. "another death star?" "yep. but under construction this time." "another trench run?" "no. a tunnel run." "ooooh unique!" -----signature----- The misconceptions you had about Star Wars, when you were a kid: "As if millions of oysters had cried out in terror...and were suddenly silenced."
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Go-Mer-Tonic Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 5/1 1:09pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ? - Date Edited: 5/1 1:14pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Go-Mer-Tonic
	Well it's the same setup. The Rebels steal the plans, find a weakness, and then exploited it to win the day. The audience goes into it with a "No problem, they did this before they can do it again". Only this time it's all set up by the Emperor. He gave them the plans, made them think the Death Star was not completed, and hid a fleet of Star Destroyers just out of site until they showed up so they could trap them. So the first time, they showed up, ran the trench and eventually blew up the Death Star 1. This time they get there only to find out they are expected, and that the Sheilds are up so they can't run into the superstructure to destroy it. The Fleet shows up on the other side and now they are literally trapped between a fully armed and operational battle station, and the Emperor's best fleet of Star Destroyers. Add to that the separate thread of Han and Leia on Endor trying to knock out the shileds and you have an entirely different dynamic to the whole battle, not to mention the confrontation between Luke and the Emperor. When they finally get the shield down, it's back to plan A and they swoop in and hit the reactor. -----signature----- "...that’s not my job, to make people like my movies. They either like them or they don’t. That’s completely out of my hands.” -Lucas "At least I will have finished what I set out to do, and at least they will have been good to me." -Lucas
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VadersLaMent Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 5/2 6:31pm Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	DS2 not original? It was a trap. Old concept, new twist, and it worked for me. -----signature----- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic-Arthur C. Clarke Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God-Michael Shermer I'm a sexy shoeless GOD OF WAR! #347 on SLG's List Of Sexy Men
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Chancellor_Ewok Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 5/3 7:12am Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	The decision to use a second Death Star actually makes a lot of sense. The reason Lucas used a Death Star at the end of Ep.IV was because if the movie flopped, it at least would have had a logical conclusion. The decision to use a Death Star in Ep.VI also made sense because Lucas needed a way put the enire Rebel Fleet in one place at the same time. By that point the audience knew that the one thing the Rebels feared more than anything else was a second Death Star. -----signature----- http://tlongpublications.wordpress.com/ http://tlongportfolio.wordpress.com/ http://thestarsailors.wordpress.com/
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Hernalt Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 5/13 3:20am Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	Possibly, since Vader is on record squandering ISDs in the asteroid field chasing after the one lone Jedi, it is narratively plausible and internally consistent that the Emperor might squander huge amounts of resource creating the perfect bait. "Everything that has transpired has been according to my design." The whole external battle in the end actually hinged upon the Hobbits, er, Ewoks, the only factor omitted from his calculation. Possibly, DSII was a continuing metaphor for the insistence upon mechanization, despite human costs, of fascist ideology. The Nazis fielded, lost, rebuilt, improved, fielded, lost countless war machines (V2 rockets, Messerschmitt 262) until they ran out of material. They were innovating right up to the end, practice makes perfect, in the same spirit as the mechanistic Final Solution. Possibly, the dive of the Executor could be a symbolic of how mechanistic fascism stabs itself, and/or symbolic of the corporal execution of Vader's Dark Side. He incurred corporal damage executing the emperor, and thereby executing his Dark Side. I don't know.
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BuddyParaiso Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 5/14 1:37am Subject: Does anyone have a better idea than a 2nd Death Star for ROTJ?
	Hello there... I'm new here, yet I've been a Star Wars fan all my life. I think they should have made a "really" new Death Star...A death star that can be a real object of fear for the rebels since ROTJ is the last Star Wars episode to date: In my Star Wars imagination, the new Death Star should be called "Mega Death Star" and it can fire planet splitting energy beams in different locations. Plush, it should have the ability to "cloak" and make short distance warp speed travel. Plus- it should have the power to project a "decoy" image that could strangely registers on rebel scanners. What do you think?
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