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Daft-Vader Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 6/7 4:04am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less?
	Okay, so basic biology first. We need energy to live. We get energy from food, which is then transferred to where it is needed. So Darth Vader has a lot of cybernetic implants - Arms legs lungs, etc. I assume from EU that these are run from power sources like batteries. so this means that he doesn't need the energy from food for his legs/arms and breathing. This is quite a bog amount of Energy not needed(though I think the brain uses more). So does this mean that Darth Vader doesn't meed to eat as much? -----signature----- "Do you think he came out of the womb wearing a breather and black helmet?" Luke S. Official Coolian & JC Musketeer Vote Lando Calrissian for Galactic President/Gummy for President Propaganda Minister and LORD of the SWC Empire; Senator for Mustafar
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU' Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 6/7 5:14am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less?
	Yes, but wouldn't parts of his body be repairing or at least trying to? He has a boit more scar tissue in ESB and ROTJ than before he puts on that dark helmet. -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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DarthIktomi Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 6/7 7:48am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less?
	Katana_Geldar posted: Yes, but wouldn't parts of his body be repairing or at least trying to? He has a boit more scar tissue in ESB and ROTJ than before he puts on that dark helmet. They'd try to, of course. Unless his nutrient supplements were laced with something to inhibit this. And we all know Palps would do this; he was doing everything he could to keep Vader from betraying him like Sith are known to.
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JEDIGUNSHIP Title: C&G Game Host BC Single Pick Winner Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 6/7 8:57pm Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less?
	This is something that I think just works out in the end without having a real explanation. -----signature----- Blue and yellow make a green lightsaber. How do you get red out of blue? Council Member in the New Jedi Trials/ Commander-in-Chief of the Rebel Alliance Addicted to Rock Band 2 and Proud of It! SWC Secret Rebel '09 Band Geek For Life!
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Icepaw_Kenobi Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 8/14 6:46pm Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less?
	I think I read in a book that he had to have IV fluids in him. -----signature----- Hobgoblins and Fiddlesticks, it's a pack of scary squirrels!!! Darth Kenobi will rule the galaxy!!! I can use the force to open automatic doors. Can you?
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Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Registered: Sep '99	Date Posted: 8/15 8:44am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less?
	I assume that the robotic parts of the suit are operated electronically, hence how they are so easily disrupted by Palpatine's lightning. Do real-life triple amputees have to eat less than people with all their limbs? (This answer may need some tweaking, as Vader is mobile - slow, but mobile. Hence, he would burn some calories from exercise. But I'd venture to say that real life triple amputees are more likely to be sedentary.) -----signature----- "We cannot afford to take mythology at face value." -Indiana Jones
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/16 7:40am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less?
	Nah, there's very effective artificial legs now; arms, we're getting there. There's no particular reason for a triple amputee (and really, how often does that sort of mess happen?) to be less mobile nowadays. For example...: Speedy McNolegs Although I'd say your dietary requirements are going to be slightly less-legs are a big portion of your body mass. I've often thought that Vader getting tired in a sabre duel is also much less likely-there's no reason his arms might get fatigued, for example. Grievous, of course, is the ultimate example of this-he basically "rides" in his cybernetic armor, with no actual muscle to do work. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Registered: Sep '99	Date Posted: 8/16 10:33am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less? - Date Edited: 8/16 10:45am (2 edits total) Edited By: Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn
	Oh yes, there are some (many) people who have incredible drive and the technology to help them regain lost abilities. But surely this is a rarer circumstance than the use of, say, a wheelchair? The notion of Vader not getting tired, and the way in which Ben delivers the line about Vader being "more machine, now, than man... twisted and evil," makes me wonder. In an alternate version of the PT, could Anakin's eventual mechanization have been partially a choice? It seems cruel for Ben to blame Vader's "soullessness" on prosthetics. Luke has a robotic hand too. The line still works, but perhaps also metaphorically (Vader is a machine - a tool - for carrying out the Emperor's/Dark Side's wishes.). (Just to note, I never interpreted it that way until now - it was always about Vader and the suit. Of course, Obi-Wan is most likely just remembering the unfortunate circumstances surrounding how Anakin became a machine, and not actually blaming his prosthesis for Vader's evil. But still - just follow my though process...) But to return to the point, what if part of Anakin's craving for power led to him using technology to enhance his stamina and strength, even before (and as a contribution to) his fall to the Dark Side, with the addition of the "iron lung" aspect being the last piece? This could have been fascinating, and would have tied in with Yoda's description of the dark side as "the quick and easy path." Of course there would have been more to it than that... -----signature----- "We cannot afford to take mythology at face value." -Indiana Jones
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 8/16 10:58am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less? - Date Edited: 8/16 10:59am (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
	DarthBoba posted: I've often thought that Vader getting tired in a sabre duel is also much less likely-there's no reason his arms might get fatigued, for example. He apparently gets extremely winded in ROTJ. -----signature----- "You're both from strange little backwater planets. You both have odd powers. You're male and she's female. What more do you need? Believe me, buddy, if I were you, I'd go right up there and ask her if she wants to ride on my rancor." - Han Solo
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/16 11:12am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less? - Date Edited: 8/16 11:13am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthBoba
	I've chalked that up to his heavy body armor and cape, plus Luke's obvious superiority in the fight. We've seen Vader duel multiple opponents routinely before and never get winded. Plus of course, he wasn't winded at all after fighting Obi-Wan on the Death Star or Luke on Bespin. Oh yes, there are some (many) people who have incredible drive and the technology to help them regain lost abilities. But surely this is a rarer circumstance than the use of, say, a wheelchair? You could always just have somebody push you. At which point all the energy requirement you'd need is what your brain requires to function, plus enough to just keep your body from digesting itself, which isn't alot. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Dark Lady Mara Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 8/17 7:33am Subject: Cybernetis and Energy - Does Darth Vader need to eat less? - Date Edited: 8/17 7:34am (1 edits total) Edited By: Dark Lady Mara
	DarthIktomi posted: Katana_Geldar posted: Yes, but wouldn't parts of his body be repairing or at least trying to? He has a boit more scar tissue in ESB and ROTJ than before he puts on that dark helmet. They'd try to, of course. Unless his nutrient supplements were laced with something to inhibit this. And we all know Palps would do this; he was doing everything he could to keep Vader from betraying him like Sith are known to. I'm incredibly amused by the mental image of Palpatine picking out Vader's diet for him. I'm assuming he gets cans of Slim-Fast. -----signature----- "Sci Fi has been associated with geeks and dysfunctional, antisocial boys in their basements with video games and stuff like that, as opposed to... the female audience." ~~ SPOILER-FREE TILLLL EPISODE IV "there aren't that many Ls in til." - farraday
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