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ILuvJarJar Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 6/8 1:06pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	Why did both Admiral Ackbar (ROTJ) and Jan Dodonna (ANH) say to the rebel pilots "May the force be with you"? I always thought that the Jedi and Rebels were two seperate things. -----signature----- ROTJ < ESB < ATOC < ANH < ROTS < TPM < TCW Star Wars Battlefront Elite Squadrons: Fall 2009 Proud President of the Salacious Crumb fanclub Star Wars>>>>>>>>My Social Life It is well worth it.....
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timmoishere Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 6/8 1:37pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	Just because they're not Jedi doesn't mean they can't believe in the Force. Both Ackbar and Dodonna were old enough to fondly remember the Old Republic Jedi. -----signature----- Will do moose stuff for money. Everything tastes better wrapped in bacon, especially bacon 11/20/2008: The day I married the most wonderful woman in the world.
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 6/8 2:48pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	timmoishere posted: Just because they're not Jedi doesn't mean they can't believe in the Force. Both Ackbar and Dodonna were old enough to fondly remember the Old Republic Jedi. Pretty much. Non-Jedi also believe in the Force because they have seen what Force users can do. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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timmoishere Registered: Jun '07	Date Posted: 6/8 3:22pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	In fact, Dodonna worked directly with Obi-Wan and Anakin during a few Clone Wars battles. So he knows firsthand of the effects of the Force. -----signature----- Will do moose stuff for money. Everything tastes better wrapped in bacon, especially bacon 11/20/2008: The day I married the most wonderful woman in the world.
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JEDIGUNSHIP Title: C&G Game Host Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 6/8 3:37pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	I agree with those above me. -----signature----- Blue and yellow make a green lightsaber. How do you get red out of blue? Council Member in the New Jedi Trials/ Commander-in-Chief of the Rebel Alliance Addicted to Rock Band 2 and Proud of It! SWC Secret Rebel '09 Band Geek For Life!
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DarthIktomi Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 6/8 9:09pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	The Rebel use of "May the Force be with you." was a reminder of the days of the Republic, and associating with the first victims of Palpatine's Empire, the Jedi.
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ILuvJarJar Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 6/9 4:57am Subject: Rebellion and the force
	oh thanks, I know that was a noobish question, but I always didnt get it. Thanks! -----signature----- ROTJ < ESB < ATOC < ANH < ROTS < TPM < TCW Star Wars Battlefront Elite Squadrons: Fall 2009 Proud President of the Salacious Crumb fanclub Star Wars>>>>>>>>My Social Life It is well worth it.....
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 6/9 9:31am Subject: Rebellion and the force
	ILuvJarJar posted: oh thanks, I know that was a noobish question, but I always didnt get it. Thanks! It's not really a n00b question. To a lot of people, a non-Jedi saying "May the Force be With You" would be like a Christian saying "There is no God but God. Mohammad is his prophet." -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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Artoo-Dion Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/9 5:25pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	Just to go further with what others are saying, a major point is the heartless, mechanical and atheistic Empire contrasted with the warm, compassionate and spiritual Rebel Alliance. (It may seem that the Empire are dark siders, but really, everyone bar Vader and Palpatine seem pretty much like atheists, and I doubt the true nature of those two was widely known.) -----signature----- Myth in Space http://mythinspace.wordpress.com A blog on Star Wars and the human psyche Updated regularly!
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Gary_Buchenara Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 6/9 6:49pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	I think it's similar to the way non-religious folks who have a vague spiritual belief will say 'God bless' or 'heaven help us'. It's like a general request for whatever is out there to work in our favour.
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU' Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 6/10 12:51am Subject: Rebellion and the force
	It actually goes a lot further than that, according to the Core Book of the SW Saga Roleplaying game. Because of Palpatine's propaganda against the Jedi, the predominant feeling in the Empire about the Force was they were better than it. Palpatine was not known to be a Force-user, he kept that carefully underwraps, and Vader was more his henchman than the top guy (as with all the Dark Jedi like Jerec etc). So really, the Rebellion used the invocations of the Force not just because they wanted to look back to the old Republic (remember, the full name of the Rebel Alliance was the Alliance to Restore the Republic) but saying the Force existed and was good and of help was another form of Rebellion. FTR, yes, I am a GM. -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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JEDIGUNSHIP Title: C&G Game Host Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 6/10 1:52pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	Good way to look at it. -----signature----- Blue and yellow make a green lightsaber. How do you get red out of blue? Council Member in the New Jedi Trials/ Commander-in-Chief of the Rebel Alliance Addicted to Rock Band 2 and Proud of It! SWC Secret Rebel '09 Band Geek For Life!
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DarthIktomi Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 6/10 7:44pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	ILuvJarJar posted: oh thanks, I know that was a noobish question, but I always didnt get it. Thanks! Same reason communist propaganda in Eastern Europe included Westerns from the Indians' perspective. Granted, South Dakota or New Mexico looks remarkably like East Germany, and the Indians have Clairol-black hair and brownface, but it was the thought that counted.
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Drac39 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/10 9:05pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	It is an interesting question. I've all ways been fascinated by the idea that there weren't many different factions of force users. It seemed to only be Jedi and Sith with some sects spread across the EU. The Rebels think very highly of Kenobi as evident in his being sent R2. -----signature----- "That's all there is to life, just a little laugh... a little tear"- Lon Chaney
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU' Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 6/10 11:45pm Subject: Rebellion and the force
	No, that was all Leia's doing. Bail told Leia that if her double life between the Rebellion and the Imperial Senate grew desperate, she was to contact Obi-Wan on Tatooine. She was planning to bring him to Alderaan when she got sent those plans and then was intercepted by Vader. Things didn't go to plan, or maybe they did... -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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ILuvJarJar Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 6/14 10:04am Subject: Rebellion and the force
	DarthIktomi posted: ILuvJarJar posted: oh thanks, I know that was a noobish question, but I always didnt get it. Thanks! Same reason communist propaganda in Eastern Europe included Westerns from the Indians' perspective. Granted, South Dakota or New Mexico looks remarkably like East Germany, and the Indians have Clairol-black hair and brownface, but it was the thought that counted. What? -----signature----- ROTJ < ESB < ATOC < ANH < ROTS < TPM < TCW Star Wars Battlefront Elite Squadrons: Fall 2009 Proud President of the Salacious Crumb fanclub Star Wars>>>>>>>>My Social Life It is well worth it.....
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