Author Topic: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
AvadaKenobi  124 posts
Registered: Mar '09
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Date Posted: 7/3 1:10pm Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
That, unfortunately, you can't pick your parents.

 

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DarthIktomi  1380 posts
Registered: May '09
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Date Posted: 7/3 6:14pm Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
EmeraldBlade posted:
That our genes have particularly strong control over us in this area.


Hmm…Anakin, Luke, Jaina, Jacen, Cade…Skywalkers can't seem to stay away from the dark side.

 

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xx_Anakin_xx  1760 posts
Registered: Jan '08
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Date Posted: 7/3 8:05pm Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
The main lesson was the power of love - kind of an overly used literary device for eons. Another was that there is good in people that cannot always be seen on the surface, no matter how well you think you know them. But I wasn't terribly fond of that message either because you know, looking for a pickle of goodness in a barrel of evil pickles is rather annoying. The one I actually liked was framed as a counter-intuitive notion in the series - the importance of family. In SW, family was shifted to secondary importance until the very end - but finally it was highlighted with Anakin killing Vader and saving Luke. All of these points were raised through the father and son relationship with Luke and his dad.

 

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Darth_Unicorn  53 posts
Registered: May '09
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Date Posted: 7/3 8:34pm Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
That sometimes your father can be a total jerkoff and you don't have to follow in his footsteps, even if it seems like your destined to.

Also that in some families, the father can be insanely attractive, yet his son can be less-than-average looking. I've seen it happen many a time.

 

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MasterLee 
Registered: Jul '09
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Date Posted: 7/4 7:09am Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
Some very funny responses here. Made me laugh.

I guess the lesson is is that it's almost never too late for redemption.

 

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threepio_mania  623 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 7:21am Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons? - Date Edited: 7/4 7:22am (1 edits total) Edited By: threepio_mania
jedibri posted:
That love and unerstanding don't just come from the parents.


Is this referring to how Obi-Wan became a mentor in Vader's absence? That's what I was going to say, that in the absence of the actual parents, others can step in and provide the same kind of guidance, like Obi-Wan did for Luke.

 

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sonnymyson  734 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 9:47am Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
Excellent question that is the basis for my sig name! peace

The task of learning and achieving balance with/from the father or the father figure is a big part of the Star Wars mythos and is reiterated in the GFFA literature as a whole in so many different ways it's always coming up fresh.

There's Luke and Anakin/Vader, Obi and Qui as a quinessential master-padawan Old Order pair, Dooku-Qui as a contrast, Yoda as everybody's little green daddy substitute, Jango-Boba versus Jango and his clones, Luke and Owen Lars, and that's just in the films!

Previous posts have focused mainly on Luke-Vader, an orphan who never knew who his father was versus an orphan adopted and told halftruths about his father. Both in a way had to look elsewhere for the fostering usually provided by the father figure, and it led to them taking roles on a larger stage than their own biological lineage would provide.

Basic need for father archetype leads to many strange overcompensations. Big drama ensues. Myths spawned. nerd wink

 

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darthcaedus1138  1873 posts
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Date Posted: 7/5 12:11pm Subject: What does Star Wars 'teach' about fathers and sons?
That the sins of the father will impact the son.

But if the son can make peace with the father, for even his worst sins, then they become something more.

Forgiveness. Even though Vader killed his Master, tortured his sister, imprisoned his friend, and generally was an evil person, Luke was able to see that there was still somewhat of a good person. Anakin Skywalker was once a Jedi, but he had become a half-human Sith, who barely existed but to serve a non-empathatic master. Anakin didn't like being it, but it was all he could be. Luke saw that if he could change Vader's outlook on life, make him go, 'Hey, my son still likes me, I can be a father instead of an evil pawn.' he'd be redeemed. It's never too late to repent, all you need is a savior.

 

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