JediMasterAni18 posted:He had no redeeming characteristics in him at all. He was evil through and through. His laughing with Luke was evil laughter not a warm laughter ever. He never imagined anyone would kill him or try to kill him. Until Vader turned on him. Evil through and through.
Shadowman82 posted: Overall I would agree but it's hard to say if he actually has genuine affection for Anakin/Darth Vader or if it's just an act to gain his trust . Even in the Original Trilogy he never seems to be really cruel or abrasive towards Vader .
DarthDragon164 posted:[quote=Boba-Phat]2) I just remember the scene where Palps says to Luke, "there is no escape, my young apprentice"...the emperor had such a sad face, such a look of pity on him. His good side was coming through in that scene.[quote] If your refering to the scene that I think you are, his expression there was sarcastic.
Ian McDiarmid posted: ""Everything he does is an act of pure hypocrisy, and that's interesting to play. I suppose it's rather like playing Iago. All the characters in the play—including Othello until the end—think that 'Honest Iago' is a decent guy doing his job, and he's quite liked. But at the same time there's a tremendous evil subconscious in operation. There's a moment in one scene of the new film where tears almost appear in his eye. These are crocodile tears, but for all those in the movie, and perhaps watching the movie itself, they'll see he is apparently moved—and of course, he is. He can just do it. He can, as it were, turn it on. And I suppose for him, it's also a bit of a turn-on; the pure exercise of power is what he's all about. That's the only thing he's interested in and the only thing that can satisfy him, which makes him completely fascinating to play, because it is an evil soul. He is more evil than the devil. At least Satan fell; he has a history, and it's one of revenge."
TaradosGon posted:So while Palpatine is evil and is irredeemable he at least, underneath it sees himself as having good intentions. The only problem is that he's willing to commit acts of extreme evil that completely overshadow the good end that he's trying to achieve. He deludes himself into thinking the evil he does is rationalized and convinces himself that he's ultimately good.
TaradosGon posted:McDiarmid has said: Ian McDiarmid posted: ""Everything he does is an act of pure hypocrisy, and that's interesting to play. I suppose it's rather like playing Iago. All the characters in the play—including Othello until the end—think that 'Honest Iago' is a decent guy doing his job, and he's quite liked. But at the same time there's a tremendous evil subconscious in operation. There's a moment in one scene of the new film where tears almost appear in his eye. These are crocodile tears, but for all those in the movie, and perhaps watching the movie itself, they'll see he is apparently moved—and of course, he is. He can just do it. He can, as it were, turn it on. And I suppose for him, it's also a bit of a turn-on; the pure exercise of power is what he's all about. That's the only thing he's interested in and the only thing that can satisfy him, which makes him completely fascinating to play, because it is an evil soul. He is more evil than the devil. At least Satan fell; he has a history, and it's one of revenge." Which somewhat suggests that the "characters" of Palpatine and Sidious are somewhat schizophrenic alter-egos. That Palpatine can, and has, fed his compassionate emotions when it suits his purposes under the personality of Palpatine. But he can alternatively feed his hatred as the Sidious persona. If he was angry all the time and simply putting on a happy face, I'd imagine the Jedi would sense it. But if he can sincerely just shut his anger off temporarily, then he can keep up the ruse.
eht13 posted:Also, I think it is a sign of how strong in the dark side of the Force he is that he can be using the Force, and yet at the same time "hide" himself in the Force and use the dark side to cloud the Jedi's ability to even realize who he really is.
eht13 posted:But either way, they would usually be better at "figuring someone out", even if that person is not actively using the Force all the time.
eht13 posted:And the Jedi themselves state that the dark side seems to be clouding everything and hindering their ability to see things clearly via the Force.
TaradosGon posted:Well Mace was aware that the dark side surrounded Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith, but even then he was surprised to hear that Palpatine was a Sith Lord.