Author Topic: Internal Conflict in Palpatine?
darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22 1:05pm Subject: Internal Conflict in Palpatine?
Gary_Buchenara posted:
If the Jedi had declared that they were deeply suspicious about the true nature of the Clone Wars (which they surely must have been) and chosen not to take the role of General in the war and hence allow their ranks to be spread impossibly thin across the galaxy, it's difficult to imagine how things could've worked out any worse than they did. The Sith would ultimately have been left fighting against themselves. With no Jedi involved, the Clone Wars cease to have a function as far as Palpatine was concerned. If the Separatists had gone on to "win" the bogus war, what would the result have been? The Separatist leadership, being manipulated by Palpatine, would overthrow ... Palpatine? Or alternately, the Separatists are defeated by the Republic and Palpatine remains in power, but the Jedi remain in tact as an order.


But the Jedi weren't suspicious of the whole thing. The Jedi believed that Darth Sidious and Count Dooku entered into a partnership with the Separatists to form the Confederacy Of Independent Systems. They were then leading them against the Republic. The Jedi didn't exactly believe Dooku about Sidious controlling the Senate. And they believed that the Clone Army was created by Sifo-Dyas, to help the Jedi without telling them. Besides, the Jedi would fight regardless, because lives would be at stake and their mandate makes it clear that protecting the Republic comes first. If they didn't act, then Palpatine would declare them traitors for not being a part of the Republic when they are most needed. He had plans within plans. Back-ups in case things didn't go a certain way. He foresaw that the Jedi would participate in the Clone Wars.

DOOKU: "The war has begun."

SIDIOUS: "Excellent. Everything is going according to plan."

 

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Gary_Buchenara  393 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22 6:04pm Subject: Internal Conflict in Palpatine? - Date Edited: 6/22 6:22pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Gary_Buchenara
Why would Jedi Master Sifo Dyas create a clone army to help the Jedi without telling them? Surely this is a very suspicious state of affairs, particularly when he then dies, as well as the Kamino files being deleted, Dooku leaving the order, Dooku joining the Separatists, the Sith returning, Dooku telling Obiwan that there was a Sith in control of the Republic, the possibility of the Chosen One prophesy coming into play ... The list of suspicious factors goes on.

I Jedi not suspicious?!

Ok, so Palpatine declares them traitors. They are scorned and marginalised by the people of the Republic. Then what? What does Palpatine do then? Begin his reign of oppression with the entire Jedi order still in tact?

 

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darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 6/23 2:23pm Subject: Internal Conflict in Palpatine?
Gary_Buchenara posted:
Why would Jedi Master Sifo Dyas create a clone army to help the Jedi without telling them? Surely this is a very suspicious state of affairs, particularly when he then dies, as well as the Kamino files being deleted, Dooku leaving the order, Dooku joining the Separatists, the Sith returning, Dooku telling Obiwan that there was a Sith in control of the Republic, the possibility of the Chosen One prophesy coming into play ... The list of suspicious factors goes on.


Sifo-Dyas, it was theorized by the Jedi, knew that the Jedi Order wouldn't believe him that they needed a Clone Army. Much less go along with it, as well as convince the Senate to approve of it. So he went behind their backs and did it. Dooku found out and killed his former friend, then hid Kamino so that the Jedi could not lay claim to the army. The Clone Army was made after the Sith resurfaced and was created in response to it. Dooku, they believe, wanted the Jedi to turn on the Senate, hence lying to them. The Sith are known for spreading lies, not telling the truth. And Anakin, well, they weren't sure if he was the Chosen One or not.

Gary_Buchenara posted:
Ok, so Palpatine declares them traitors. They are scorned and marginalised by the people of the Republic. Then what? What does Palpatine do then? Begin his reign of oppression with the entire Jedi order still in tact?


No, eliminate them through legal means. Coax them into coming after him, then killing the Jedi. However, it doesn't matter. The Jedi will still fight because he has foreseen it. They're as predictable as the sun and the moon.

 

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Gary_Buchenara  393 posts
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Date Posted: 6/23 3:38pm Subject: Internal Conflict in Palpatine?
Predictable. Probably.

Wise. Not in this particular case.

That's all I'm saying.

 

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