TaradosGon posted:Anyway, the point is that dictators generally distance themselves from atrocities they commit.
Serafine_Tinaste posted:TaradosGon posted:Anyway, the point is that dictators generally distance themselves from atrocities they commit. I have to disagree. Saddam routinely leaked torture vids on the internet in order to scare people. That wasn't an accident.
rich-narco posted:Serafine_Tinaste posted:TaradosGon posted:Anyway, the point is that dictators generally distance themselves from atrocities they commit. I have to disagree. Saddam routinely leaked torture vids on the internet in order to scare people. That wasn't an accident. makes no sense? here was virtually no internet infratructure, ISPs or services with Iraq when Saddam was in power.....
darth-sinister posted:Re-watch the scene where Tarkin and Vader meet with the Imperial officers. TARKIN: "The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away." TAGGE: "That's impossible! How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?" TARKIN: "The regional governors now have direct control over territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station." In other words, the Death Star would be used to keep everyone in line. It is expressly stated in ANH and alluded to in AOTC and ROTS. This is why Tarkin insists on destroying Alderaan. TARKIN: "There. You see Lord Vader, she can be reasonable. Continue with the operation. You may fire when ready." LEIA: "What?" TARKIN: "You're far too trusting. Dantooine is too remote to make an effective demonstration. But don't worry. We will deal with your Rebel friends soon enough." This is also why a second Death Star is built after the first is destroyed. Without it, Sidious cannot hope to maintain his rule. You can say having a second DS is a bad idea on Lucas' part, but you have to look at the story point based on what is said in ANH.
TaradosGon posted:I don't know if this has been discussed. I used the search function, but search results for "Death Star" yields more results that have nothing to do with the Death Star than relevant results. My question is what was the plan for the Death Star? In ANH Tarking says that fear of the Death Star will keep the local systems in line. Two things: 1. How local is local? Everything within the Empire? Was a specific sector problematic? Was there to be more than one Death Star to keep different regions in line? 2. He never says fear of the Empire. Just the battle station. Historically, personalities like Stalin and Saddam Hussein, when executing political rivals never came forward and admitted to being responsible. Usually they would blame someone else or attribute the death to some cause other than murder. I recall hearing of an incidence when Hitler believed someone was planning to betray him, so that individual was given the opportunity to commit suicide and be remembered a hero as the government would lie about the details of the death to make them look favorable. The alternative was that the individual would be arrested, tried, and executed as traitor and be disgraced. Anyway, the point is that dictators generally distance themselves from atrocities they commit. Would the Empire take responsibility for the Death Star and make it common knowledge? Just as in the video game KOTOR the Sith's destruction of Taris was no big secret. Or would the Death Star be kept a secret with planets that were destroyed being blamed on the rebels to rally the rest of the Empire to Palpatine? I.E. would it be killing two birds with one stone? Destroying political opposition, but shifting blame to the enemy to strengthen domestic rule. Kind of like in 1984 when governments staged attacks on their own citizens to keep the population's attention distracted from domestic issues. Was the Empire going to directly terrorize the population and have a policy of "obey or die" or would rebellious systems just conveniently be "destroyed by the Rebels" bringing the systems in line by having fear of the rebels be more willing to yield to Imperial control for security.
darth-sinister posted: Palpatine was not planning on mass production of them. It could travel across the galaxy by hyperspace and have enough time to take them out.
obi-arin-kenobi posted:What proof within the films mention this?
obi-arin-kenobi posted:darth-sinister posted: Palpatine was not planning on mass production of them. It could travel across the galaxy by hyperspace and have enough time to take them out. What proof within the films mention this? The Death Stars navigation was about orbiting planets. Imo, it makes sense that palpatine would have them scattered about the galaxy, orbiting various planets--acting as an eye to survey the galaxy.