Author Topic: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
FirstStarWars  1124 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 2:41pm Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
Did Vader give Lando a little force choke on cloud city? As a kid I thought so. It's when Vader is in the elevator and talking to Lando about giving Han to the bounty hunter. Lando doesn't really say much more and has a funny look on his face after Vader says "pray I don't alter it"

 

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timmoishere  7785 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 3:32pm Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
Nope, it was simply a threat. Lando knew of Vader's reputation by that point, so when Vader threatened him, Lando wisely backed off.

 

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GuNgAnFaN3090  6699 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 3:35pm Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
Yeah, I don't think he did the choke. Lando was just scared as hell.

 

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Darthbane2007  1373 posts
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Date Posted: 7/5 6:30am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
FirstStarWars posted:
Did Vader give Lando a little force choke on cloud city? As a kid I thought so. It's when Vader is in the elevator and talking to Lando about giving Han to the bounty hunter. Lando doesn't really say much more and has a funny look on his face after Vader says "pray I don't alter it"


I don't know, but the movie novelization says that vader gave him a little choke, just to warn him what might happen if he stepped out of line..

 

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jedimasterbac  6231 posts
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Date Posted: 7/5 9:23am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
I don't see anything in the movie that would indicate a choke. That looks like artistic licensing on the part of Donald F. Glut.

 

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Serafine_Tinaste  681 posts
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Date Posted: 7/5 9:59am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke? - Date Edited: 7/5 10:00am (1 edits total) Edited By: Serafine_Tinaste
I don't think Vader gave just "little chokes". That wasn't his style. tongue I think Lando was just scared because Vader was in total control of the situation by then and was threatening to change their deal even further.

 

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Date Posted: 7/5 10:02am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
Yeah, like the others said, it was just a threat. No choke needed or used.

 

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DarthJohnkenobi  944 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 8:10am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
If you go back and watch, you'll see Lando raise his hand to his throat, in that "ive just been slightly choked" kind of way. So, yes, Vade did give Lando a slight choke.

 

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Serafine_Tinaste  681 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 8:34am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
DarthJohnkenobi posted:
If you go back and watch, you'll see Lando raise his hand to his throat, in that "ive just been slightly choked" kind of way. So, yes, Vade did give Lando a slight choke.

That's a sign of stress. My grandma does that whenever she's worried about someone. It doesn't mean Darth Vader is choking her.

 

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halibut  26786 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 9:12am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
Perhaps the Gamorrean guards at the start of ROTJ were also stressed when Luke entered wink

 

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Serafine_Tinaste  681 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 10:24am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
Employment at Jabba's had...um, a high turnover rate. No doubt it was stressful. tongue

 

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Darth_Nub  147 posts
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Date Posted: 7/22 12:36am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
I ssem to recall that the actual scene of Vader choking Lando as a warning was in the Marvel comic adaptation as well as the novel, but I can't be sure.

I've always taken that gesture of Lando raising his hand to his neck as a sort of flinch, indicating either that he knows what he's in for, or that he's already received a definite warning.
Whether or not there was a scene shot of Vader giving him a brief Force choke, I don't know. It certainly would have fit in quite well as part of a running joke - once Lando's finally escaped Vader & tries to help the Rebels, the first thing Chewie does is, yes, choke the hell out of him. The look on Lando's face after Chewie lets go is priceless in that context.

 

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DarthJohnkenobi  944 posts
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Date Posted: 7/22 11:33am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?

Serafine_Tinaste posted:
That's a sign of stress. My grandma does that whenever she's worried about someone. It doesn't mean Darth Vader is choking her.


There are many ways people express stress. Some are definate physiological responses, such as increased heart rate and respiration, others are just how people respond. Some examples would be biting nails, twisting earlobes, wringing of the hands, getting shaky, or the example you listed.

So, based on your logic, when Solo was shaking after Leia freed him from the carbonite, he wasn't suffering hibernation sickness, he was just stressed, that,s all.

Vader used the Force to slightly constrict Lando's trachea, sending him a message about who's in charge.

 

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Serafine_Tinaste  681 posts
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Date Posted: 7/22 11:50am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke? - Date Edited: 7/22 12:10pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Serafine_Tinaste
I'm still not convinced.

Whenever did Vader just "warn" someone? I mean, he wasn't that type of guy. You don't get a reputation like his when you warn people. He didn't warn Lando that he never planned on keeping his side of the deal in the first place. Considering the torture they went through at the hands of Vader, him just giving Lando a "little choke" is rediculous.

There just really isn't anything that proves that this is more then a viewer's imaginative elaboration.

 

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eht13  651 posts
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Date Posted: 7/22 6:44pm Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?
DarthJohnkenobi posted:

Serafine_Tinaste posted:
That's a sign of stress. My grandma does that whenever she's worried about someone. It doesn't mean Darth Vader is choking her.


There are many ways people express stress. Some are definate physiological responses, such as increased heart rate and respiration, others are just how people respond. Some examples would be biting nails, twisting earlobes, wringing of the hands, getting shaky, or the example you listed.

So, based on your logic, when Solo was shaking after Leia freed him from the carbonite, he wasn't suffering hibernation sickness, he was just stressed, that,s all.

Vader used the Force to slightly constrict Lando's trachea, sending him a message about who's in charge.
So you're saying Darth Vader actually is choking his grandma? laugh

Serafine_Tinaste posted:
I'm still not convinced.

Whenever did Vader just "warn" someone? I mean, he wasn't that type of guy. You don't get a reputation like his when you warn people. He didn't warn Lando that he never planned on keeping his side of the deal in the first place. Considering the torture they went through at the hands of Vader, him just giving Lando a "little choke" is rediculous.

There just really isn't anything that proves that this is more then a viewer's imaginative elaboration.
Exactly. Vader's words were enough of a warning for Lando... no "little choke" necessary or given.

 

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MatthewZ  1591 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 4:36am Subject: Did Vader give Lando a little choke?

I think Lando just felt his world was closing in on him. Like he was being suffocated.

 

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