Author Topic: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
ds1220 
Registered: Aug '09
Date Posted: 8/10 10:12am Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
yesterday i saw "the return of the jedi" again. in the last scene of the movie, as i remembered it, luke saw the ghosts of obi-wan and yoda, and a third ghost of anakin skywalker in his un-twisted edition. when i saw the movie yesterday, the ghost was Hayden Christensen who played anakin in the new trilogy. has the movie a new edition?
i would like to get some answers. thanks!

 

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darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 8/10 1:21pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
Yes, changes were made when the DVD's were released in 2004.

ANH:

-Threepio's left arm is bent more when he is in the back of the landspeeder.
-Landspeeder swoops in rather than flies straight overhead as it approaches Mos Eisely.
-Dianoga's eye has been tweaked with CGI.
-When Leia fires on the Stormtroopers in the chasm crossfire scene, the original blaster sound effect has been restored. It no longer sounds like a 70's gunshot.
-Audio mix is different from the film.
-Jabba has been tweaked to look a lot better than he did in 1997, but still not as good as TPM Jabba.

TESB:

-Temuera Morrison, who played Jango Fett and the Clonetroopers, now voices Boba Fett. All Stormtroopers sound the same, though.
-Slave I's engines now sound like they do in AOTC.
-Audio mix is different.
-Luke no longer screams after he lets go and falls down the shaft.
-Ian McDiarmid as Emperor Palpatine and new dialogue while talking to Vader. Vader also has new dialogue.

ROTJ:

-Hayden Christensen's head inserted on Sebastian Shaw's. Lucas talks about this on the DVD.
-Alteration to the intensity of the Lightsabers.
-Some refinement to the CGI aliens.
-The black shadow on Palpatine's face in a number of scenes is mostly gone.
-Naboo added to the victory celebration.
-Jedi Temple and Senate Rotunda added to Coruscant.

 

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ds1220 
Registered: Aug '09
Date Posted: 8/10 1:39pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
wow! thanks for the detailed and superquick answer!

 

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mikadojedi  2046 posts
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Date Posted: 8/12 10:14pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
The audio mix is not just different, its destroyed. The left right channels. And worst of all the music from ANH. Thanks to this adywan fellow for restoring that. I'm sorry, I just needed to vent a bit on this. I caught ANH the other night on TNN and was hoping that the statement of the Fanfare would be there for the start of the Yavin scenes.
Most of the changes to the OT I actually liked. Especially Ian as the Emperor. I wish, however, that a future release might have a better make up job in line with ROTJ then ROTS.
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ILuvJarJar  1398 posts
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Date Posted: 8/13 12:13pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
The scene was included in the OT special edition in 97'.

 

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TaunTaunHerder  448 posts
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Date Posted: 8/13 1:52pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?

I don't like Boba's new Kiwi voice. First ILM changed David Prowse's
Cockney accented voice to James Earl Jone's voice, then they did the opposite
and changed Boba's cool-sounding voice to the English dialect Kiwi accented voice. It just sounds bad.

Changing Anakin's ghost at the end of ROTJ was a bad idea, too. Yoda and Obi-wan looked
the same as ghosts as when they died, but when Darth Vader died, he didn't look like a young Anakin Skywalker, but his ghost looked like a young Anakin. They should not have changed that.

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ScannerOmegamon 
Registered: Mar '09
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Date Posted: 8/13 4:28pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy? - Date Edited: 8/13 4:29pm (1 edits total) Edited By: ScannerOmegamon
I like almost all 2004 DVD changes.Replacing original Emperor in ESB with Ian McDiarmid was a very good change.Original scene never really looked good to me.Same with Anakin,s ghost in the end of ROTJ.Replacing that old man,who was about 78 years old(too much maybe?) with Hayden,which some argue that he is too young now,was brilliant change for me.
Like George Lucas explained,that when he turned to Darth Vader and got burned in lava,Anakin persona died.Then he turned back to light again,but his body is still burned,so you can,t really identify,how he looks like as 46 years old,so Anakin,s Force Ghost form will be before he got burned in lava.
For Boba Fett,s voice I don,t really care,I even think that his original voice was wierd a bit.

 

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Gary_Buchenara  393 posts
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Date Posted: 8/13 4:40pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
There are a number of reasons why I much preferred Shaw in that final scene.

1. The young Anakin was never worthy of redemption. Last time we saw Anakin looking like that he was slaughtering younglings.
2. Anakin didn't die on Mustafar. If he did, who was that lying talking to Luke at the end of ROTJ?
3. Anakin had to become Vader and suffer as he did before he could learn what he needed to learn. Having him as a young man ignores the significance of that and weakens the redemption.
4. Any film without Hayden in it is better than with him.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10400 posts
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Date Posted: 8/13 8:17pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy? - Date Edited: 8/13 8:20pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
TaunTaunHerder posted:
Yoda and Obi-wan looked the same as ghosts as when they died, but when Darth Vader died, he didn't look like a young Anakin Skywalker, but his ghost looked like a young Anakin.


It's almost as if Anakin fell to the dark side while Obi-Wan and Yoda did not.

Gary_Buchenara posted:
2. Anakin didn't die on Mustafar.


Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. The posters who claimed Anakin died on Mustafar have so much egg on their face right now, it's a whole omelette.

 

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Gary_Buchenara  393 posts
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Date Posted: 8/13 8:35pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
Well, mockery and sarcasm aside, visually removing all the years of Anakin's life post- immolation certainly causes a potential change to the way his redemption is interpreted.

 

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TwiLekJedi  70051 posts
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Date Posted: 8/14 6:00am Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
Arawn_Fenn posted:
Gary_Buchenara posted:
2. Anakin didn't die on Mustafar.


Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. The posters who claimed Anakin died on Mustafar have so much egg on their face right now, it's a whole omelette.


Yeah, ignorant fools. Everyone knows Anakin died on Coruscant. Though I can't decide if it was when he got the new name or the new outfit. Hm.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10400 posts
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Date Posted: 8/14 3:14pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
You know what's really weird? When Obi-Wan disappeared his cloak was left behind on the Death Star. But his Force ghost... has a cloak!!! **cue spacey music**

 

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TwiLekJedi  70051 posts
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Date Posted: 8/14 5:42pm Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
Clearly, they can pick appropriate wardrobe, seeing how Anakin too is wearing something he never wore when alive

 

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DarthJohnkenobi  944 posts
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Date Posted: 8/17 7:41am Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
Thats one of the benefits to being a force ghost,,, Unlimited Wardrobe!

 

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TwiLekJedi  70051 posts
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Date Posted: 8/17 9:06am Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
It's why Guiness wasn't replaced by McGregor - he would have appeared naked.

 

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UCLAJediMaster  2446 posts
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Date Posted: 8/20 11:17am Subject: a change in the last scene of the trilogy?
in the new DVD releases, do we see Shaw's body disappear?

 

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