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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 11:24am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	so I'm watching my copies of the 2004 DVDs. At around 1:25, Luke leaves Dagobah to go save Han and Leia. It then cuts to the most ridiculous matte painting in the entire OT. I guess hadn't really realized how bad it looked in the originals until I saw it compared to the rest of the rereleases. Was this matte painting redone in the 2008 DVDs? -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 8/21 11:29am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	Do you have a screencap? Unless we all put our copies into the DVD player or the computer and go just to that scene, most of us won't know what you're talking about and this conversation will get very boring. As for the 2008 DVDS, if there were DVDs released in 2008 (were there?) there were no changes to anything. It would've just been a re-release of the 2004 DVDs, probably sans the bonus disc that came with the 2004 set. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 11:31am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	screencap, not mine: Also, are you sure the 2004 and 2008 releases are the same? I thought they were different. -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 8/21 11:33am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB - Date Edited: 8/21 11:34am (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
	They probably have different box art, but there were definitely no changes made to the films. That would've been big news around here, and we'd still be arguing over them. And I've always liked that matte painting. I personally think it looks great. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 11:37am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	well i love it too, for the history of it. Its a great shot from our childhood, however it looks out of place in the movies now. The movies are so much more dynamic now than they originally were, to just show a painting on screen for a few seconds seems out of place. Maybe its a nod from lucas to the original fans. -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/21 11:42am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	Yeah, I like the Bespin sequences as a general rule. They're just gorgeous. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 8/21 11:57am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	UCLAJediMaster posted: Maybe its a nod from lucas to the original fans. Or he just doesn't see a problem with it. A lot of the other Bespin stuff was changed not just because of the effects, but because he also had different ideas for how it should have been done had there been better technology. If you want to talk about replacing a bad matte painting, then the one in the rebel hangar in ROTJ is the one. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 12:00pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	do you have a shot of the ROTJ one? -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 8/21 12:02pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	I think the other platform on the left of the picture was not in the original film. I don't recall ever seeing such platforms until the Rogue Squadron games. -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/21 12:04pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	Yeah, there was a level in Battlefront on one, iirc. So that's possibly added. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 8/21 12:12pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	UCLAJediMaster posted: do you have a shot of the ROTJ one? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:HomeOne_hangar.jpg It's not as bad there as it is in other shots, but you can still tell that it's very obviously a matte painting. It's increasingly glaring throughout the scene. Arawn_Fenn posted: I think the other platform on the left of the picture was not in the original film. I don't recall ever seeing such platforms until the Rogue Squadron games. It was there, but it just couldn't be seen because the films weren't in widescreen. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 12:14pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	in the original ESB, did threepio always say: "don't blame me, I'm an interpreter. I'm not supposed to know the difference between a power socket and computer terminal!." that sounds different to me. I haven been watching my THX VHS copies from 1995 for the last couple years. Now today I throw the DVD in and that line just felt wrong to me. -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 12:22pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	originally did luke say "i'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine" I don't remember him mentioning Tatooine before. -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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BaronFel88 Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 8/21 12:32pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	I think the only original lines replaced are "You're lucky you don't taste very good" to "You were lucky to get out of there" from Luke to Artoo on Dagobah after the dragonsnake incident and "BRING MY SHUTTLE!" to "Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival ( )" as Vader departs Cloud City in ESB. -----signature----- "Oh the pain" "What a disgrace" -Joe Benigno
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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 12:37pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	ugg.... that means I haven't watched the movies enough recently.... I am actually forgetting lines now!!! -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/21 1:16pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	It's honestly not that big a deal. But yeah, he's always said Tattooine. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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