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UCLAJediMaster Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 8/21 1:23pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	when i was 10 I forced myself to memorize the entire scrolls as well as 95+% of each script. My friends would quiz me all the time. Or they would just say a "A new hope, GO!" and then I would start reciting the entire movie... yes I was always a huge nerd. -----signature----- Alpha-7 Captain, EUDF "But... it was so artistically done." -Grand Admiral Thrawn "I get by." -Cosmo Kramer Have you seen the Bridge? "Who's scruffy looking?"
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Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Registered: Sep '99	Date Posted: 8/21 3:18pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB - Date Edited: 8/21 3:19pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn
	This shot changed between the original release and the SE. In the original, a cloud car flies directly at the screen, and the gas platform is missing. In the SE, the cloud car is gone and the storage platform takes its place. The platform design comes from concept art from ESB - it was also used in, but not invented for, Rogue Squadron. -----signature----- "We cannot afford to take mythology at face value." -Indiana Jones
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 8/21 6:49pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	The matte paintings still look better than the CGI in the SEs and PT... -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/21 7:06pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	If you say so. There's a couple that look like garbage. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 8/21 8:20pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	Whereas the CGI has a couple GOOD shots and the rest are garbage... -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/21 9:38pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB - Date Edited: 8/21 9:39pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthBoba
	Once again, if you say so. There's plenty of garbage f/x work in the OT; I'll see your bad CG and raise you matte lines, transparent snowspeeder cockpits, and nice big boxes around TIE fighters. And that's just for starters before I start talking about horrible rubber masks, R2's quarter-inch-wide wheels somehow working in the forest and underwater, and the Emperor's slugs. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Merlin_Ambrosius69 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 8/22 9:17am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	DarthBoba posted: Once again, if you say so. There's plenty of garbage f/x work in the OT; I'll see your bad CG and raise you matte lines, transparent snowspeeder cockpits, and nice big boxes around TIE fighters. And that's just for starters before I start talking about horrible rubber masks, R2's quarter-inch-wide wheels somehow working in the forest and underwater, and the Emperor's slugs. In the theater -- ie, the original form and presentation of the films -- the matte lines and eyebrow slugs were hardly visible, and the shifting black boxes were not perceptible in the slightest. Only with the processes of turning the film into video did these errata appear. -----signature----- "Chance makes playthings of us all." -- Seneca Shameless non-Manager Emeritus sock of Vortigern99. Fan of George RR Martin, JK Rowling and JRR Tolkien.
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 8/22 9:25am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	Okay-so what? It's not 1977 anymore, SW has not been originally released in a theatre for nearly three decades-in fact, none of the OT films have beyond specialty events. Everyone watches it on video or DVD now, so comparing how something looked thirty bloody years ago on a movie screen to audiences that were still f/x virgins then is frankly ridiculous. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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ILuvJarJar Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 8/22 12:54pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	It dosnt look so bad, alot of Star Wars is made up of these paintings. -----signature----- ROTJ < ESB < ATOC < ANH < ROTS < TPM < TCW Star Wars Battlefront Elite Squadrons: Fall 2009 Proud President of the Salacious Crumb fanclub Star Wars>>>>>>>>My Social Life It is well worth it.....
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eht13 Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 8/22 7:40pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	I have no problem at all with the majority of the matte paintings or the majority of the CGI shots... but the original shifting black boxes around ships were terrible.
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brainwash Registered: Jan '09	Date Posted: 8/23 11:06am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	In the original edition of ESB, the shot in question didn't have the mining platform, but a cloud car zooming by the shot.
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morpha2 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 8/25 2:14pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	DarthBoba posted: Okay-so what? It's not 1977 anymore, SW has not been originally released in a theatre for nearly three decades-in fact, none of the OT films have beyond specialty events. Everyone watches it on video or DVD now, so comparing how something looked thirty bloody years ago on a movie screen to audiences that were still f/x virgins then is frankly ridiculous. Why is it ridiculous? The films were created before a secondary home video market existed and therefore they were made to look as good as possible on the silver screen. Criticizing their limitations on video is like saying the Sistine Chapel is ugly because a print you saw of it in a book looked bad (kind of an extreme, I know, but an accurate comparison I think).
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Gary_Buchenara Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 8/25 7:56pm Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	It's kind of like watching Jar Jar in TPM in HD. It's like watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit!
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bluesaber70 Registered: May '07	Date Posted: 8/28 2:47am Subject: Bespin matte painting? around 1:25 into ESB
	I noticed that as well. You would have thought Lucas would have done a better job. -----signature----- In the end God wins and Jesus is King.
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