Author Topic: The Great Disturbance In The Force
Aggravated71 
Registered: Aug '09
Date Posted: 9/7 5:58pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
Was obviously Luke coming into learning how to use the force.The Sith could feel it and became aware of it and found out it was Luke.

Is that a strength of being a Sith? Can they sense changes easier than a Jedi using the good side?I know both sides can use the force,but Palps/Sidious and Maul got away with it,and no one noticed a disturbance.

Remember,this was a GREAT DISTURBANCE,something was really rocking the boat there.Palps was practically crapping his Cloak in ESB contacting Vader about it.

Darth Mauls(PT) training should have caused a disturbance but never did,neither did Palps.Did they train outside of the galaxy to avoid being detected?Or used a Dark side cloak?

I dont know what the books have said,but always wondered if that was a strength the Sith had the Jedi didnt.I know the dark side is hard to see but one would have thought some kind of disturbance would have been felt by the Jedi.What have you read on the subject or learned about?

This has always had me curious.

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 9/7 6:07pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
It's different when thousands of Jedi are running around, using the Force and being trained at the same time.

 

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Aggravated71 
Registered: Aug '09
Date Posted: 9/7 7:33pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
Arawn_Fenn posted:
It's different when thousands of Jedi are running around, using the Force and being trained at the same time.


I thought of that too,and its possibly the best explaination I could think of myself,yet these guys were dabbling in the Dark Side,which I would imagine should cause some kind of ripples in the Good side force users? Or did the Sith have to cloak themselves using the dark side until the time was right?

What was also Interesting,if you take the PT,in ROTS,around the time Palp/Sidious reveals himself and Mace Windu says ,"the Dark Side of the force surrounds the chancellor".
Palps let himself be known to draw the Jedi to him to come and discover who is behind it,was genius.He kept himself cloaked from them,which led me to think its a Sith advantage over normal Good side force users.

anyways,just wondering about it and cool to hear any ideas,theories or etc.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 7:49pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
"Hard to see, the dark side is." - Master Yoda

 

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CloneUncleOwen  1160 posts
Registered: Jul '09
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Date Posted: 9/7 8:30pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
This is by far one of the greatest conundrums of the entire franchise.
How a Jedi master could sense problems in the force lightyears away and
yet be oblivious to a powerful Sith lord plotting the overthrow of the
Republic in the next room is beyond me. Let's face it... Star Wars is
swamped with this sort of incongruous situational material. If anyone
could come up with a comprehensive storyline that rationally explained
all of this, they'd have a bestseller on their hands.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 9/7 8:37pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force - Date Edited: 9/7 8:37pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
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Aggravated71 
Registered: Aug '09
Date Posted: 9/7 11:05pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
Arawn_Fenn posted:
"Hard to see, the dark side is." - Master Yoda


Always wanted to know why...just for fun discussion.Maybe using the Force,whether its dark side or good,makes no difference,the force is being used,hence the dark side can remain shrouded until someone takes a good look.

An analogy,maybe a poor one,but Im trying...It would be Like myself cutting my lawn and Im either angry doing so,or enjoying the labor.The neighbors wouldnt notice the difference how the grass got cut,just notice the mower noise and cut grass,unless they took the time to watch me do it,and see what my reaction was during the time?







 

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Jabba_The_Hutt_123  315 posts
Registered: Oct '03
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Date Posted: 9/8 12:10pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
Well Yoda says that only the dark lord of the sith knows of their weakness, so I assume the lighside can be blocked or similar, though how is a mystery

 

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ZEM  97 posts
Registered: Sep '09
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Date Posted: 9/8 6:17pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
Well, I would say that the Dark Siders (Sith) would be able to sense a powerful Light-Sider (Luke) being trained to use his power - since light shines out in the darkness, correct? The Force was in darkness and Luke was a bright light.

 

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timmoishere  7861 posts
Registered: Jun '07
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Date Posted: 9/28 4:43pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
CloneUncleOwen posted:
This is by far one of the greatest conundrums of the entire franchise.
How a Jedi master could sense problems in the force lightyears away and
yet be oblivious to a powerful Sith lord plotting the overthrow of the
Republic in the next room is beyond me. Let's face it... Star Wars is
swamped with this sort of incongruous situational material. If anyone
could come up with a comprehensive storyline that rationally explained
all of this, they'd have a bestseller on their hands.

Palpatine was an expert at using the Force to hide his ability to use the Force.

 

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eht13  668 posts
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Date Posted: 9/28 6:56pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
timmoishere posted:
Palpatine was an expert at using the Force to hide his ability to use the Force.

Yes, kind of an interesting idea. He was able to pull this off right in front of the Jedi too. I think a couple of the novels refer to him "hiding in the Force".

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 9/28 7:28pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
timmoishere posted:
Palpatine was an expert at using the Force to hide his ability to use the Force.


He also learned an ancient Sith technique called "common sense" which involved not using the Force right in front of the Jedi.

 

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Ambassador Cara Jade  10021 posts
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Date Posted: 9/29 2:03pm Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
I always assumed that it had something to do with the fact that nothing of that kind had been felt anywhere in the galaxy (apparently) for 20 years. Not unlike, "I sense something, a presence I've not felt since..."

The Jedi have been driven into hiding for a long time, and the sudden appearance of a new power would definitely show up on the collective radar.

 

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Lars_Muul  10112 posts
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Date Posted: 10/14 4:50am Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force - Date Edited: 10/14 4:51am (1 edits total) Edited By: Lars_Muul
Arawn_Fenn posted:
He also learned an ancient Sith technique called "common sense" which involved not using the Force right in front of the Jedi.
laugh Spot on!
That's the way I see it. When they're not using the Force, Jedi and Sith are virtually undetectable.





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TwiLekJedi  70038 posts
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Date Posted: 10/14 5:02am Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
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Lars_Muul  10112 posts
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Date Posted: 10/14 6:09am Subject: The Great Disturbance In The Force
It's been a while, hasn't it?
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