PalpatineWasFramed posted:These are some interesting views here in this thread in regards to the intentions and methods of Obi-wan and Yoda. But it still doesn't explain why they chose to omit that one fairly important fact. I mean, they both clearly knew that Palpatine was capable of shooting lightning. I don't see why they couldn't have at least mentioned that little fact to Luke. Considering that Palpatine doesn't seem to be interested in saber fighting as of Episode VI, the lightning is really the only dangerous thing he can do. And the two wisest Jedi in the galaxy apparently just forgot to mention it to Luke, who is their "only hope". That's like telling Luke he needed to go into the chamber underneath Jabba's throne room, and forgetting to tell him there's a Rancor there. It's just sloppy!
PalpatineWasFramed posted:If Luke's goal is to die in the interest of killing the Emperor, then he should have just grabbed his saber off the armrest of the Emperor's chair, and cut a hole through that gigantic window. The sudden vacuum would shatter the entire thing, and explosive decompression would kill Luke and Palps. Vader might survive, depending on how well-sealed his suit is, but that's fine since Luke doesn't seem too keen on killing Vader anyway
timmoishere posted:PalpatineWasFramed posted:If Luke's goal is to die in the interest of killing the Emperor, then he should have just grabbed his saber off the armrest of the Emperor's chair, and cut a hole through that gigantic window. The sudden vacuum would shatter the entire thing, and explosive decompression would kill Luke and Palps. Vader might survive, depending on how well-sealed his suit is, but that's fine since Luke doesn't seem too keen on killing Vader anyway That didn't work so well when General Grievous tried to shatter the bridge windows to kill Anakin and Obi-Wan. Safety measures against explosive decompression FTW.
PalpatineWasFramed posted:timmoishere posted:PalpatineWasFramed posted:If Luke's goal is to die in the interest of killing the Emperor, then he should have just grabbed his saber off the armrest of the Emperor's chair, and cut a hole through that gigantic window. The sudden vacuum would shatter the entire thing, and explosive decompression would kill Luke and Palps. Vader might survive, depending on how well-sealed his suit is, but that's fine since Luke doesn't seem too keen on killing Vader anyway That didn't work so well when General Grievous tried to shatter the bridge windows to kill Anakin and Obi-Wan. Safety measures against explosive decompression FTW. Do we know that there are emergency shutters on that window? Palpatine doesn't seem like a man who is overly concerned with safety. If he were, he probably would have asked maintenance to put a grate over the huge reactor shaft in his throne room. His overconfidence is his weakness, after all. Also, they're on a space station here, as opposed to a ship like Anakin, Obi-wan and Grievous were. Never mind the fact that the Death Star II isn't finished; considering that it's largely stationary and protected by a deflector shield, it seems likely that such safety measures such as those shutters wouldn't be in place. Even if the explosive decompression wouldn't work, though, I see no reason why Luke couldn't have just waited until Han had the shield down and then carried out a kamikaze attack on the Emperor's throne room. I'm sure he could have figured out where it was; the alliance had the plans for the Death Star II, after all.
Dark--Helmet posted:I think it's safe to assume that the 1# guy in the empire has emergency shutters on his windows.So Luke,Vader or anybody else couldn't try something.There's no grate over the reactor shaft because it's there to make a dramatic scene and death for Palp,like the pit and laser doors in the TPM. It makes no sense for a space station not to have emergency measure like shutters.It doesn't matter that it's not finished there are personnel including the emperor who are walking around with no space suits on.