Rogue...Jedi posted:One has to wonder, though, what Palpatine would have thought/done had Tarkin showed up with the Death Star at Coruscant and wiped it out
voodoopuuduu posted:For a demonstration, as Tarkin called it, a dead planet would have sufficed.
Rogue...Jedi posted: One has to wonder, though, what Palpatine would have thought/done had Tarkin showed up with the Death Star at Coruscant and wiped it out
TwiLekJedi posted:voodoopuuduu posted:For a demonstration, as Tarkin called it, a dead planet would have sufficed. A not-quite-dead planet (Despayre in the EU) sufficed for a test to see if the damn thing actually worked. For an effective demonstration, ie to show the galaxy that they have the ultimate technological terror, they needed something people would notice. Though then you're right that it didn't have to be Alderaan - their equivalent to our Mars would have sufficed. But apparently Tarkin doesn't believe in warning shots
Darth_Davi posted:There are some problems with Tarkin potentially attempting to blow up Coruscant, and by extension, Palpatine: 1. Do you really think Vader was gonna let that happen? He was on the Death Star, and if Coruscant/Palpatine were threatened, Vader would have immediately killed Tarkin, and then probably taken the Death Star himself and blown up Tarkin's homeworld, Eriadu, as a lesson to any other potential traitors. Tarkin would have to have known that Vader wasn't just there as an observer, and that Vader had the power to kill him at will... 2. Assuming Vader doesn't kill Tarkin, how do we know that Palpatine's control over dark side wouldn't have been enough for him to simply kill Tarkin using the Force as soon as the Death Star entered the system? We know that Force users can do so from a distance, we see Vader choke someone out over a viewscreen in an entirely different Star Destroyer. 3. It is entirely likely that in addition to having Vader there, in addition to his own powers, that Palpatine would have done what anyone giving a subordinate the means to kill them would do...get leverage over them to stop them from getting any crazy ideas. Move Tarkin's family to Coruscant, give him incentive to not turn traitor. Basically, I don't believe for one second that Palpatine would be stupid enough to not have any contingency plans, you know? Palpatine would have put safeguards in place to prevent Tarkin from going solo.
Darth_Davi posted:1. Do you really think Vader was gonna let that happen? He was on the Death Star, and if Coruscant/Palpatine were threatened, Vader would have immediately killed Tarkin, and then probably taken the Death Star himself and blown up Tarkin's homeworld, Eriadu, as a lesson to any other potential traitors. Tarkin would have to have known that Vader wasn't just there as an observer, and that Vader had the power to kill him at will...
Darth_Davi posted:2. Assuming Vader doesn't kill Tarkin, how do we know that Palpatine's control over dark side wouldn't have been enough for him to simply kill Tarkin using the Force as soon as the Death Star entered the system? We know that Force users can do so from a distance, we see Vader choke someone out over a viewscreen in an entirely different Star Destroyer.
Alpha-Red posted: Personally I'm not a believer in an all-powerful Palpatine. Evil as he may be, I think he relies a huge extent on the willing cooperation of his minions and lieutenants (Vader, Dooku, Tarkin) to carry out his agenda. When you serve Darth Sidious, you're not helping him in a small insignificant way....you're literally paving the way for him to take power. If Palpatine isn't all-powerful, then Zaarin's plot could've succeeded, and a Death-Star-to-Coruscant would've worked fine.