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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 10/12 5:35am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	Well, now that you all put it this way... perhaps it was tactics. Down that corridor was a place he'd rather fight and throwing half the Senate at Yoda was just his backup plan. Though I use the term plan lightly here; I don't think the Senate brawl was planned as such. It's clever though that that office had two exists, the corridor and the ceiling. -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 10/12 3:51pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	epithree posted: I don't think Palpy was attempting to run. He was going for the exit. I don't know if that means anyone should impute outright fear to him in that exact moment, but it's still trying to get away. -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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epithree Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 10/12 11:59pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: epithree posted: I don't think Palpy was attempting to run. He was going for the exit. I don't know if that means anyone should impute outright fear to him in that exact moment, but it's still trying to get away. When exactly does he go for the exit? Isn't it AFTER he blasts Yoda with force lightning? Why is he trying to get away if Yoda has already been incapacitated? -----signature----- 'And so it is.' 'charge the plasma rotors!' 'hello there.'
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 10/13 5:22am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	It's after Yoda Force-pushes him with about as much difficulty as putting his pants on in the morning. He even makes a surprised little gasp after Yoda blocks his exit. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 10/13 5:58am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	Perhaps his overconfidence was always his weakness. Though I suppose it's smart of him. He knows his history. Jedi and Sith just don't mix and the Rule of Two didn't survive this long because they went out and took on Grand Masters of the Jedi Council every other week. Heh, he just might think himself way too important -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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xx_Anakin_xx Registered: Jan '08	Date Posted: 10/13 8:03am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	Sidious just looked like he was having way too much fun the whole time. It kind of lends to the idea that he was toying with Yoda, but I don't think he was. Nonetheless, Yoda is the one who left and declared himself a failure - I don't think Sidious would have given up, I agree he had too high an opinion of his ultimate ability to prevail - and he thought Anakin would surpass them all anyway as a Sith, so death wouldn't prohibit his goal. -----signature----- I say we put together a 'kill squad' and assassinate Darth Krayt. Who's with me?
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 10/13 8:32am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	As much as Palpatine was doing what he was doing for the revenge of the Sith (hehe), though, he was also doing it for himself. His goal was to make himself Galactic Emperor, not just die and say "eh, OK, doesn't matter, Anakin can do it." Palpatine was a megalomaniac, so he would be determined to get away from Yoda no matter what. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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eht13 Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 10/13 9:39am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	After he blasted Yoda with lightning, Palpatine probably had no plans to leave. That idea changed when Yoda got up and gave him the Force push across the room. He may have been confident he could beat Yoda if he needed to, but he didn't want to engage directly otherwise. He was leaving for self-preservation purposes, because as stated above, it was about the revenge of the Sith but it was also about the culmination of his efforts to rise to power and make himself emperor. I think his line to Yoda about Vader becoming stronger than either of them was mostly meant to discourage Yoda more than anything else... although it did have some ironic similarities to Obi-Wan's "if you strike me down" message in ANH.
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epithree Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 10/14 6:05pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	eht13 posted: After he blasted Yoda with lightning, Palpatine probably had no plans to leave. That idea changed when Yoda got up and gave him the Force push across the room. He may have been confident he could beat Yoda if he needed to, but he didn't want to engage directly otherwise. He was leaving for self-preservation purposes, because as stated above, it was about the revenge of the Sith but it was also about the culmination of his efforts to rise to power and make himself emperor. I think his line to Yoda about Vader becoming stronger than either of them was mostly meant to discourage Yoda more than anything else... although it did have some ironic similarities to Obi-Wan's "if you strike me down" message in ANH. This makes sense. Well put. -----signature----- 'And so it is.' 'charge the plasma rotors!' 'hello there.'
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eht13 Registered: Sep '07	Date Posted: 10/14 7:59pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	^ Thanks.
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epithree Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 10/15 5:57pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	So does anyone still believe there's good in the Emperor? -----signature----- 'And so it is.' 'charge the plasma rotors!' 'hello there.'
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DuracellEnergizer Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 10/20 1:25pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	It'd be nice if there was some good in Palpatine.The sad truth is, however, that he was crafted to be 2-dimensional to the core and that hasn't really changed the entire time the character's been in existence. -----signature----- Episode I Reimagined : The Beginning http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/30317264/p1/?1 ======================================= If KOTOR was any good, it'd be a book.
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Aggravated71 Registered: Aug '09	Date Posted: 10/29 11:47pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	I dunno...some movie quotes by Palps.. "Good is a Point of View,Anakin". And... "Young Fool...only now...in the End...do you Understand." I dont think that Palps had anything Good(from a light side Goodness) left inside of him.He only showed he cared for Vader like he would a deadly Guard dog.He orchestrated everything for Years.Vader was an apprentice he needed to carry out his orders to stay in power.One cannot do it alone. I thought Palps was so thrilled in Episode III when he told Vader that Vader killed Padme through "his anger".That was the final straw he needed to remove Anakin/Vader of any good humanity left..Palps felt no remorse and was smiling when Vader's power of extreme dark side anger was crushing/blowing everything apart in the room. That helped push Vader deeper into the Dark side than ever before.Palps already knew how powerful Anakin was before he turned,and he needed to make sure that as long as Vader was his loyal apprentice,there would be no good-side threats left to perhaps,make him turn back. Luke came in later and changed all that.Those feelings of love and saving someone he loved was still there buried deep within. Palps always knew Vader was seduced to the Dark side to find healing power to save someone he loved..not for political or financial gain.That goes along with what was the threat Obi wan told Luke about offsprings being a danger to Palps.Anakin/Vader had good intentions,just sold his soul to the devil to get that power. Vader could not bring himself to destroy Luke in ESB.He could have done so easily...Luke wasnt ready as a Jedi yet..Then in ROTJ,Palps did not feel Lukes presence as Vader did when a small rebel force landed on Endor...Palps said,"Strange that I have not...I wonder if your feelings are clear on this matter Lord Vader?" Luke felt the conflict...and had to nearly die trying to save his Father.I love that story! Before I sign off...one interesting point...Yoda said that one you start down the dark path,forever will it dominate your destiny.Was he wrong about the dark side,or Vader's reason for going down the dark path?Vader had good buried in him...Palps had none.
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PalpatineWasFramed Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 11/1 8:27pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	epithree posted: So does anyone still believe there's good in the Emperor? Yes, absolutely. He wanted what was good for the people of the galaxy...his people. He mistakenly thought that the Dark Side would be the key to bringing harmony back to the galaxy, and in the end things went wrong and people died. In his heart, though, he wanted peace and tried to bring it. I don't think there's any question about that.
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Darth_Laudrup Title: Host: PT Trivia Challenge Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/2 8:55am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor? - Date Edited: 11/2 8:58am (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Laudrup
	He wanted peace yes, but the reason he wanted peace was that peace in the galaxy meant he was able to rule without anyone opposing him and his "just" rule. Palpatine was an insane and evil megalomaniac who wanted nothing more than to satisfy his own insane lust for power. And he was totally willing to slaughter billions of people in order to maintain that power. -----signature----- I love Ellen Page: 5' 1" / 1.55 m tall and very very sexy.
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