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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 11/8 9:31am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	snelson posted: as a note to his lying. his biggest lie was to luke when he was ressurected he told luke endor wasn't his first death. Is that... ...oh no... Talking about that crappy comic makes my eyes bleed. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/8 9:51am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	I would tend to go with Leland on this. However, the OS databank presently seems to back up the comic's portrayal that Endor was not his first death, for whatever that's worth. -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 11/8 1:29pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	The SW.com databank has never really been the greatest source for canon information, IMO. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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VadersLaMent Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 11/8 3:34pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	I would say yes. But said 'good' is in such a far away place it would take more than what the Jedi have or could offer to bring that good to the surface. Even Satan started out a goodguy. -----signature----- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic-Arthur C. Clarke Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God-Michael Shermer I'm a sexy shoeless GOD OF WAR! #347 on SLG's List Of Sexy Men
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/8 5:25pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	jedimasterbac posted: The SW.com databank has never really been the greatest source for canon information, IMO. I agree. It's gone against Lucas' own statements, for example. -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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Darth_Davi Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 11/9 4:50pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	The very title of this thread assumes that there was once good in Palpatine, that got driven away...In order to answer whether there was still good in the Emperor, you would first have to establish that there was EVER any good in the Emperor, and I don't think based on the films, that you can. There isn't an ounce of decency in Palpatine, and nothing in the films suggest otherwise, once you realize that any seemingly good acts of kindness were all a lie, a false front, a sham, a way to further his sinister plot, etc. A wolf in sheep's clothing may look like a sheep on the outside, but, try to shave the wool off of one sometime...Just because it looks like sheep, doesn't make it a sheep. -----signature----- What the hell is an Aluminium Falcon? Oh, I'm sorry, I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a thermal exhaust port thats only two meters wide! It wasn't even fully paid off yet!
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 11/9 5:17pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	Darth_Davi posted: The very title of this thread assumes that there was once good in Palpatine, that got driven away...In order to answer whether there was still good in the Emperor, you would first have to establish that there was EVER any good in the Emperor, and I don't think based on the films, that you can. When he was born. You lose. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_-_The_Chosen_One Production blog: http://alternativesaga.wordpress.com/
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Darth_Davi Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 11/9 6:24pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	jedimasterbac posted: Darth_Davi posted: The very title of this thread assumes that there was once good in Palpatine, that got driven away...In order to answer whether there was still good in the Emperor, you would first have to establish that there was EVER any good in the Emperor, and I don't think based on the films, that you can. When he was born. You lose. no, since its never shown in film, nor is there any proof he was good even then in the EU...so, you lose. :P -----signature----- What the hell is an Aluminium Falcon? Oh, I'm sorry, I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a thermal exhaust port thats only two meters wide! It wasn't even fully paid off yet!
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PalpatineWasFramed Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 11/9 7:58pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	Darth_Laudrup posted: Yes. I bet Palpatine cried because the rebellion forced him to kill all those people. Once again something strikes me as odd. If Palpatine was really a good person deep down in his heart of hearts, why did he begin the construction of the Death Star before he was even officially the ruler of a Galactic Empire. Ohh I forgot. He propably did it because he wanted to protect the Galaxy against the evil confederacy of independant systems. Ohh wait he was playing both horses so I wonder why he constructed that thing. Yes ofcourse. Like Hitler he just wanted to create a lot of jobs. Thank you! I'm glad at least someone agrees with me. Palpatine wanted what was best for the galaxy and the citizens of the Empire, but made some bad decisions that forced him to take some very severe action to protect his people. The difference between Palpatine and Hitler is that while Hitler only told people his despicable actions were for the good of Germany, Palpatine actually believed that his actions would ultimately save the Empire, perhaps even to the point that the Republic might someday become a feasible way of government (especially considering his love for democracy, as stated in Episode II). Palpatine obviously believed he was helping Luke and Vader, and that he wanted them to join with him so they could be of more help to the galaxy. Palpatine may have the appearance and some of the tendencies of an "evil" person, but it's unfair to use those traits to define him. He was using harsh means (as Sith are known to do) to what he believed was a truly good end. The dude just wanted peace.
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Darth_Davi Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 11/9 8:08pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	I am thinking Darth Laudrup's sarcasm was perhaps too subtle...You may have missed it, but Darth Laudrup was in fact, being sarcastic with that response, and was not agreeing with you. -----signature----- What the hell is an Aluminium Falcon? Oh, I'm sorry, I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a thermal exhaust port thats only two meters wide! It wasn't even fully paid off yet!
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Darth_Laudrup Title: Host: PT Trivia Challenge Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 11/10 8:11am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor? - Date Edited: 11/10 8:16am (2 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Laudrup
	Darth_Davi is a very perceptive forum user I see. I do not agree with the original poster. But sarcasm can be very dangerous in an internet forum. -----signature----- I love Ellen Page: 5' 1" / 1.55 m tall and very very sexy.
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 11/10 2:53pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	To be slightly serious for a moment, I'd suggest being careful of not taking the deliberate obtuseness too far, PWF. This is only text, we can misunderstand things real quick. Because really... quoting his "I love democracy"? That's comedy gold right there! -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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popeyesfriedchicken Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 11/13 12:50am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	no good in the emperor. dude was all bad news.
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ISD_Devastator Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 11/13 6:43am Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	I'm just asking: why should there be any of this "good" in the Emperor? And in this case I'm assuming the "good" is from the usual Rebel/terrorist point of view that I've never understood If you looked it from the Imperial POV, you'd see that Palpster was the incarnation of goodness. -----signature----- -= FIGS =- ... in the ESS
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PalpatineWasFramed Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 11/13 11:05pm Subject: Is there still good in the Emperor?
	ISD_Devastator posted: I'm just asking: why should there be any of this "good" in the Emperor? And in this case I'm assuming the "good" is from the usual Rebel/terrorist point of view that I've never understood If you looked it from the Imperial POV, you'd see that Palpster was the incarnation of goodness. If you don't understand the Rebel-terrorist point of view, I recently posted a thread discussing it. Check that out if you haven't already. I think I argued my point fairly well, though very few here seems to agree with me
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