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ChosenOneKK Registered: Sep '09	Date Posted: 10/1 11:41am Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	Why was the duel in episode 5 better than the duel in episode 6?
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DARTH_BELO Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 10/1 12:02pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader - Date Edited: 10/1 12:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DARTH_BELO
	I wonder if it's because the focus was more widespread in ROTJ. In ESB, that part of the story was ALL about Luke and his relationship to Darth Vader...more attention was given to that sequence. In ROTJ, there was the Endor battle, the Death Star battle, and then also Luke's duel with his father. I wonder if that may have effected the amount of attention given to that part of the story. Unless you're simply talking about Special effects, in which case I think they're about the same, for their own reasons. -----signature----- There are NO trilogies - only ONE SAGA...
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DuracellEnergizer Registered: Apr '09	Date Posted: 10/1 12:18pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader - Date Edited: 10/1 12:21pm (2 edits total) Edited By: DuracellEnergizer
	Because they spent more time standing and talking than fighting. Plus Vader seemed to give up there at the end and let Luke win. Unimpressive. Very unimpressive. -----signature----- Episode I Reimagined : The Beginning http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/30317264/p1/?1 ======================================= If KOTOR was any good, it'd be a book.
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morpha2 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/1 2:12pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	I would chalk it up to the general level of filmmaking being much higher on ESB.
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 10/1 3:11pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	'better' is a wholly personal judgement, that's my opinion. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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xx_Anakin_xx Registered: Jan '08	Date Posted: 10/2 11:02am Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	They were just different. In ESB Luke was trying his best; in ROTJ Luke was going back and forth between wanting to fight and not wanting to fight and Vader wanted to turn Luke both times, not kill him. -----signature----- I say we put together a 'kill squad' and assassinate Darth Krayt. Who's with me?
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morpha2 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/2 1:38pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	Vader wants to turn Luke, yes, but I think he's fully prepared to kill him in both fights. Luke just flat out beats him in ROTJ.
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JEDIGUNSHIP Title: C&G Game Host Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 10/2 4:11pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	Remember that RotJ had other events going on at the same time, so the duel was split up into a couple parts during the film. ESB had less breaks in the fight. -----signature----- Blue and yellow make a green lightsaber. How do you get red out of blue? Council Member in the New Jedi Trials/ Commander-in-Chief of the Rebel Alliance Addicted to Rock Band 2 and Proud of It! SWC Secret Rebel '09 Band Geek For Life!
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bluesaber70 Registered: May '07	Date Posted: 10/3 1:25pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	Was it really better? To me there was a much more personal feel to the fight in Epi.VI because Luke was fighting his Father. Not to mention he never wanted to kill his Father. Heck he even told Obi-Wan as much. Not to mention the conflict Anakin was feeling during the whole sceen. -----signature----- In the end God wins and Jesus is King.
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CloneUncleOwen Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 10/3 1:47pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	Because in ROTJ the Emperor is wandering around watching them the entire time. You ever try to do it with some old voyeuristic creep watching you? I'm surprised that Luke or Vader could even get their lightsabers up. -----signature----- Hey, what are you trying to pull here... (CLICK) pull here... (CLICK) pull here...
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X-Factor Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 10/3 5:43pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	ChosenOneKK posted: Why was the duel in episode 5 better than the duel in episode 6? That's pretty subjective, if you ask me. It all comes down to personal preference. Personally, I thought the ROTJ duel was far more powerful and much more personal than the ESB one. Though, the ESB duel also has the advantage of ending with the "big reveal" after Vader finishes mopping the floor with Luke. -----signature----- Proud member of the Democrat Socialist Party.
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ExarKun2004 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/13 7:53pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader - Date Edited: 11/7 11:32am (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
	BAC EDIT: Unacceptable. -----signature----- "a young jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine till he turned to evil...
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BigBoy29 Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 10/13 9:20pm Subject: Luke vs. Vader - Date Edited: 11/7 11:33am (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
	It's not really like that - people construe it that way by getting too wrapped up in the silly stuff ... But sticking with the Rebel/Imperial struggle, and not the Jedi/Sith struggle, you can pretty much eliminate those types of areas of the OT. Like many have asserted on these boards - Goldleader and Wedge ended the Sith - no matter what the hell was going on in the "Throne Room". BAC EDIT: Removed a certain word used by a certain user who made a certain post directly above this one. -----signature----- Lando: "She saved me at the Battle of Tannabe". Han: "Hey remember, I won her fair and square." Lando: "She was mine before she was yours, she was mine before she was yours ..."
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Artoo-Dion Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 10/14 12:35am Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	One is about Luke meeting his nemesis for the first time; the duel takes place in several different locales in the facility and thus feels more grand and epic. The other is about Luke confronting his father in a confined space. It is small, intimate and personal and serves a totally different function. In ROTJ, the "epic" part is mainly the space battle. -----signature----- Myth in Space http://mythinspace.wordpress.com A blog on Star Wars and the human psyche Updated regularly!
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Lars_Muul Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 10/14 4:43am Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	It's interesting, because episodes I, III and V have these grand, on-the-move duels, while those in between provide more intimate ones. Nicely balanced, if you ask me! Balance - it's nice /LM
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ILuvJarJar Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 10/14 11:51am Subject: Luke vs. Vader
	It was faster and it builds up for the anticipation of "No Luke, I am your father". -----signature----- ROTJ < ESB < ATOC < ANH < ROTS < TPM < TCW Star Wars Battlefront Elite Squadrons: Fall 2009 Proud President of the Salacious Crumb fanclub Star Wars>>>>>>>>My Social Life It is well worth it.....
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