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Sturm Antilles
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Date Posted:
6/20/02 3:45pm
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RE: Vader: Sith Lord or Dark Jedi
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Well, you've got some good points. Just going by the movies, I don't see anything wrong with your POV. But I prefer the official designations for dark side former Jedi.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Mr44
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Date Posted:
6/20/02 4:36pm
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Fair enough..
That is why I think it would be fun if we came up with alternative terms for Dark Jedi, I know they wouldn't hold much stock, but isn't there anything that you or others could come up with that have a "dark, Star Warsy" feel
some proposals:
Magus
Thrall
Foresaker
I just think it would be a fun, creative exercise.
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Jedi Merkurian
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Date Posted:
6/21/02 5:19am
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"Joe Sentient" doesn't make any type of distinction in the ranks of the Jedi Order, be they Padawan or be they Master. They're all "Jedi Knights." While technically incorrect, the term is still used.
For example, TC-14, Nute Gunray and the other Neimoidians made no distinction between Jedi Master and Padawan learner. In their eyes, they were both "Jedi Knights." As another example, until corrected by Senator Amidala about actual ranking in the Order, Sio Bibble referred to Anakin as "Master Jedi," again an honorific reserved for Jedi Knights.
Viewed in that light, while technically a misnomer, "Dark Jedi" would be the term that "Joe Sentient" would use to describe someone who was part of the Jedi Order before turning to the dark side, but wasn't a Dark Lord of the Sith.
Mr44, how about Legions of Lettow? 
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Mr44
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Date Posted:
6/21/02 9:57am
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Extremely well thought out point, Merkurian..
It does make sense to use a blanket term if you really don't care to go into detail. John Citizen ( who by the way, is a clone of Joe Sentient, the REAL meaning of AOTC )
doesn't care who is chopping off his arm with that fancy laser sword, just that the guy is one evil SOB, hince the term "Dark Jedi"
kind of how nobody says "pass the Lego(tm) brand interlocking plastic blocks", they just call everything Legos...
PS- Is "hince" actually a word or is it a mild dillusion.....?
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Genghis12
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6/21/02 12:00pm
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Mr44...
"PS- Is "hince" actually a word or is it a mild dillusion.....?"
Are you asking if "hince" is equivalent to 5,280 feet of psychosis, or something which happens when you're confused about eating a Vlasic when in reality it's Heinz?
Geez, figuring out Dark Jedi was tough, but I'd say we're in a real pickle over this one. ?:|
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Mr44
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Geez Genghis,
I'll only say this once....
NOWHERE in the films does it give a measurement for "hince." Oh sure, there was some speculation that GL hinted in a third party German interview that hince was equvilent to 3400' of psychosis, but 5280' is purely an EU term. I'd wish you'd quit your wild speculation about something that CLEARLY is not cannon.
...You know I DID have pickles for lunch...
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GrandAdmiralJello
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6/21/02 8:04pm
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NOWHERE in the films does it give a measurement for "hince." Oh sure, there was some speculation that GL hinted in a third party German interview that hince was equvilent to 3400' of psychosis, but 5280' is purely an EU term. I'd wish you'd quit your wild speculation about something that CLEARLY is not cannon.
I don't think Genghis was saying anything about hince being a cannon. 
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Fire_Light
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Hince doesn't have an Infinities Icon, so it must be Canon.
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Mr44
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No one here has heard of the Incom TC-45 Rebel Hince Cannon?
*******SPOILER ALERT********
If you haven't- don't worry it will have a MAJOR role in the Ultimate, Gold, Classic Edition Star Wars DVD!
You know, I should really invest in better spell checking technology............
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Genghis12
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I'm still wondering if by "mild dillusion" you meant:
"mile delusion - 5,280 feet of psychosis"
or...
"mild dill-usion - a trick of the mind involving a certain kind of pickle"
And I suppose you could fire pickles from a cannon.
Although I don't think it'd be as impressive as using a watermelon with Gallagher's Sledge-o-Matic.
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Sturm Antilles
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6/22/02 4:15pm
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Hehe. Gallagher's funny. My dad met him. 
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GrandAdmiralJello
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Alright, now I'm confused.
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Mr44
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No, no...GrandAdmiralJello,
it should be:
Hence, now I'm confused...........
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Aged-Master-Genghis
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6/22/02 7:02pm
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Sing a song of hince pence
A pocket full of rye
Four and twenty Sith Lords baked in a pie...
Everyone, sing along with the Genghis!
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Master Salty
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In the ANH novelization, the first thing said about Vader is that he is a Dark Lord of the Sith.
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