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Punisher
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10/16/02 7:18am
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Man, that scene description is gonna make people wear-out their DVD'S! 
To add something meaningful...
Look at the Tatooine architecture...
many of the towers in the Mos Espa scenes are rather phallic looking.
There is one in the scene where Qui-Gon is communicating with Obi-Wan, via comlink (Talking about trading something from the Queen's ship for the hyperdrive) and in the background... a DEFINITE phallic symbol!
Boba Fett has a large phallic symbol sticking out of his backpack, the missle.
One can find deep meaning in the fact that Yoda has a shorter saber than Dooku, but his technique makes him a better fighter. (Okay, maybe that one wasn't so meaningful  )
Man, now I'm gonna have to watch my SW movies again... instead of Where's Waldo?, it's gonna be Where's the phallic symbol?
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atomik
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10/16/02 9:00am
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That is profound Emos-Edud. Thanks for writing it 
I really agree with numbers 8 and 9
"8) How is the big pussycat killed? By the ramming force of the phallic beast.
9) Padme leaps from the head of the phallus. In her white clothes, Padme's actions recall ejaculation. While falling she moans and then gives Ani a spent kiss."
I noticed the architecture as a phallic symbol before but not the above two points. Cool! 
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Padme Bra
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10/16/02 9:46am
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I agree that the whole "phallic" thing is overused. I mean if you're going to make a weapon to shoot or stab someone, what's it supposed to be shaped like, a cube? As Freud said, "sometimes a lightsaber is just a lightsaber".
Now the Sarlacc on the other hand....
That analysis of the arena battle is seriously deranged.  Let me watch it again to make sure.
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MadMardigan
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Luke's other phallic symbol:
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Darth Dark Helmet
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10/16/02 2:21pm
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This whole topic is very boderline, and could go either way. I'm going to let it stay for now, just keep it clean.
My thoughts, I think it is all unintentional. The whole theory of phallic symbols, is something that can be found in anything. Take lightsabers for instance, I don't think Lucas was thinking on any level about the phallic representations of them, he was just thinking that they're swords that are also lasers. The phallic sysmpolism of swaords has been there since the invention of the sword.
Yes, these things are there, but I don't think Lucas was thinking about those specific intrepretations when he made them.
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pobrienjhu
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sometimes a lightsaber is just a lightsaber.
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Punisher
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GL in interviews has said that the duel in TESB and Luke losing his hand & saber was "a castration scene."
I think that quote was in the Annotated Screenplays. It is there, we aren't being "dirty"... but it is funny to realise how many hidden examples of sexuality are in the SW Saga.
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I don't really buy into all of this. I once heard that that Luke's trench run was a symbol for fertilization. Now that may be true. It was a climactic scene.(sorry I couldn't resist)
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Punisher
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Even Mel Brooks saw the psychological underpinnings of the saga.
"Your Schwartz is a big as mine!"
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SONOFBEN
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I bet somewhere in a grave Sigmund Freud has a huge grin on his face. You guys have proved that we are all sexually beings and that sex is a part of everything that we do. Was any of this intentional on GL's part, no, but it's clearly there and now we have seen these scenes in a new light. There is no denying any of this, there is nothing wrong with seeing things this way because sex is involed in more than just intercourse, it's in our daily life and in our way of life. Just wanted to share a thought, please post some more freudian scenes from SW's, you are cracking me up.
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MadMardigan
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Just wanted to share a thought, please post some more freudian scenes from SW's, you are cracking me up.
here are some Freudian lines from SW.
Star Wars
1. "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell!"
2. "Luke, at that speed do you think that you'll be able to pull out in time?"
3. "Put that thing away before you get us all killed."
4. "You've got something jammed in here real good."
5. "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
6. "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought."
7. "Sorry about the mess..."
8. "Look at the size of that thing!"
9. "Curse my metal body, I wasn't fast enough!"
10. "She may not look like much, but she's go it where it counts, kid."
The Empire Strikes Back
1. "I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me."
2. "Size matters not. Judge me for my size, do you?"
3. "There's an awful lot of moisture in here."
4. "But now we must eat. Come good food, commmme..."
5. "That's okay, I'd like to keep it on manual control for a while."
6. "Hurry up, golden-rod..."
7. "I must've hit it pretty close to the mark to get her all riled up like that, huh kid?"
8. "Possible he came through the south entrance."
9. "And I thought they smelled bad on the outside!"
10. "Control, control! you must learn control!"
Return of the Jedi
1."Hey, point that thing somewhere else."
2. "I look forward to completing your training. In time you will call me master."
3. "I never knew I had it in me."
4. "There's good in him, I've felt it."
5. "Grab me, Chewie, I'm slipping -- hold on. Grab it, almost...you almost got it. Gently now, all right, easy, easy, hold me Chewie."
6. "Hey Luke, thanks for coming after me -- now I owe you one."
7. "Back door huh? Good idea!"
8. "She's gonna blow!"
9. "I think you'll fit in nicely."
10. "Wedge! Pull out! You're not doing any good back there!"
Check this thread for more. It's pretty funny.
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DarthUnpleasant
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10/20/02 8:44am
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Vader - "I have felt him"
Emp P - "Strange that I have not..."
Anyway, the X-Wing and particularly the red-and purple Imperial Guards, are a teensy bit on the phallic side. A friend of mine went to the SW exhibition in Bradford, UK, with me, and exclaimed straight away about the Imperial Guards.
Also, I defy anyone to look at that sillhoette of Vader at the top of this page and not see any resemblence to any particular organ at all...
Personally I'm more with Jung, and I tend to be very sceptical about all this Freudian mullarkey, but sometimes there's just no denying a willie when you see one. When you're delving into Greek tragedy structures and conflicts between sons and fathers, I guess there's no escaping all this, and I think it more than possible that a lot of the things we're seeing in SW were delibertately put there. Especcially considering that GL quote about the "castration scene".
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Seigiryu
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Yes, and also in Star Wars: Magic of Myth, they compared the Death Star to the dragon Luke has to slay as the first challenge of his hero quest. In slaying it, the trio (Han, Leia, Luke) are fist devored by it, going into its stomach (trash compactor.)
The trash compactor was a womb like device, according to this text, and gave birth to the new heroes, as the struggle had killed them and made them reborn as a team.
This makes sense, comparing the compactor to a giant uterus. They're in fluid, and after several contractions, go out through the tiny hole in the wall.
Scary!
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10/20/02 11:00am
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Ya know, when I ask where the toilet is on the Falcon, or where the ladders go on Luke's X-Wing, I get told I am analysing the films too much!
I was watching EastEnders this afternoon, and Peggy Mitchell was pulling a pint in the Queen Vic. Do you know what the handle of the bar-pump looked like? Do ya?
While the posts in this thread are convincing and very well written, I do think that this subject could do with being left alone!
And I won't even go into:
"Into the garbage chute, flyboy"
Oh, and regarding swords, bullets and missiles etc; I thought it was called aero-dynamics? I can't help it if parts of my anatomy are aerodynamic! Yeah baby!
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TK414
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Topic is just too funny to write about.
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