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ROTJ SE No Bonfire of the Vader?
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IliveinHoth
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Oct '02
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Date Posted:
11/7/02 4:27pm
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ROTJ SE No Bonfire of the Vader?
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IliveinHoth
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How come I didn't see luke burnin his dad's cool metallic suit in this one. I mean what else did he have to leave his kids, an Empire, nope, not even a stamp collection.
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Tropical_Plumber
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Date Posted:
11/7/02 4:31pm
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Huh?
Luke still burns Vader's suit in ROTJ SE.
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darkOmegazer0
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11/7/02 4:36pm
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Isn't the body still in the suit? Why does everyone say burning the Vader suit?
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DarthBoba
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Date Posted:
11/7/02 4:44pm
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Eh? The funeral scene is still there on mine.
And as far as I'm concerned, the body is still in the suit. Leather & metal don't burn as easily as that thing was.
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Mace Windy
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Date Posted:
11/7/02 6:23pm
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Since I had first seen the films, I had always assumed that Vader's body had dissapeared.
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razorsaces
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11/8/02 3:47am
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I beleive GL, the movie staff, www.starwars.com, and the RotJ book all state that Vader faded vanished when he died.
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k-man
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Date Posted:
11/8/02 5:34am
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That's correct. Although I always believed his body to be in the suit, the Official Site has stated that Ani-Vader's body dissappeared, so it was just the suit that went up.
And yes, the sequence is still in the SE.
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MR-BADMAN
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Date Posted:
11/8/02 5:48am
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RE: ROTJ SE No Bonfire of the Vader?
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There probably wasnt much of the body left.
Obi: He is more machine than man now, twisted and evil.
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Gregatron
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11/8/02 8:16am
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What about his cyborg parts? Did THEY disappear, too?
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Padme Bra
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11/8/02 8:19am
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They changed it. In the original script he didn't disappear, in the SE script he did. Of course now it makes no sense.
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BuriedAlien
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11/8/02 10:55am
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I have one problem with the idea that Anakin/Vader's body disappeared upon his death. From what we see of Obi-Wan's and Yoda's passing, the disappearance, should it happen, occurs *immediately* at the moment of death. In RETURN OF THE JEDI, however, we see Anakin/Vader's material form (his flesh, not the armor) continue to exist for at least several seconds after he expires.
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Bib Fortuna, Twi'lek
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11/8/02 11:03am
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Then we must conclude from that scene that Vader isn't quite dead just yet. He most likely dies a few seconds after the scene ends.
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Padme Bra
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11/8/02 11:15am
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RE: ROTJ SE No Bonfire of the Vader?
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Padme Bra
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I've been in this conversation before but the funeral pyre scene in ROTJ was very obviously filmed as just that, a funeral. Not as some kind of symbolic purging of a symbol of evil or whatever but a funeral. Even people who like the idea of Luke dragging an empty suit through the forest and building a funeral pyre for it have to admit that it was initially filmed as a funeral, with a dead guy in the suit. I will freely admit that they did change the script so that Anakin did disappear before the funeral. The scene just doesn't work as well that way though, IMO.
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IliveinHoth
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Date Posted:
11/8/02 12:32pm
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I just watched it yesterday and I didn't see the scene, It used to be right before Luke walked out to see Leia. Could someone help, I'll check again.
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Bib Fortuna, Twi'lek
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11/8/02 12:37pm
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The bonfire is right where it always is: after Han and Leia kiss, and before the planets around the galaxy celebrate.
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Darth Dark Helmet
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11/8/02 1:24pm
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Its the part where Luke is standing in front of a lot of fire.
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