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Porkins in a Speedo Registered: May '99	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:34pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	i guess what irks me the most is the company line saying that the reason discussion of alcohol (amongst other things) is not allowed is: because it is not legal for everyone here. as i said before, discussion of alcohol is NOT against the law for anyone. the only thing that is against the law is: people under the age of 21 purchasing, possessing, and consuming alcohol.
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citizen-tom Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:34pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	I can't remember what happend in the EU, I was drunk.
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xie Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:35pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	Actually, depending on the area, it might not actually be illegal to consume alcohol if you are under 21. It may only be illegal to purchase it. -----signature----- EmpressPalpatine: i preobly should just say. Yeah, you guys were right. there is no tessa, it was mark, or whoever, all along just to give the whole thing some closure
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YodaJeff Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:37pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	"You forget that fan fic is also allowed on this site, so why aren't you cracking down on fanfics with drinking in them?" I've only visited the fan fic forum a couple times, so I didn't know that such things existed, but thanks for bringing it to our attention. "Furthermore, characters in EU do not only drink, but several times they have gotten drunk." Again, I haven't read most of the EU, so I didn't know this. Since I haven't read it, I don't know what type of detail it goes into during their drunken exploits. PiaS, I'm not saying that all discussion of alcohol is wrong. I'm saying that there should be some limits, and it'd be helpful if we were able to receive user input on where the line should be drawn. citizen-tom, please don't post if you don't have anything valid to add to the discussion, especially in Communications. -----signature----- The JC can't be everything for everyone. "It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level."
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dp4m Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:39pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	I'm not saying that all discussion of alcohol is wrong. I'm saying that there should be some limits, and it'd be helpful if we were able to receive user input on where the line should be drawn. I think I gave a clear line above. What do others think? -----signature----- "Looks like you're about to get pwned" - Eric Cartman "Awarding experience points for cleverly and creatively generating an enjoyable experience. How warped is that?" - Darths & Droids
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Porkins in a Speedo Registered: May '99	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:40pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	i know, xie, i was defining it in general. 21 is the legal age in the vast majority of the U.S.
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farraday Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:41pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	So Yoda Jeff if you are confessedly ignorant why are you the only mod in here? -----signature----- Not photoshopped, digitally enhanced or altered.
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:43pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	Hi farraday. I'm here. What would you like me to say? -----signature----- Opposing Scrooge Economics since 2009
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Porkins in a Speedo Registered: May '99	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:43pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	PiaS, I'm not saying that all discussion of alcohol is wrong. I'm saying that there should be some limits, and it'd be helpful if we were able to receive user input on where the line should be drawn. i think dp4m's last post best displays what those limits should be.
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YodaJeff Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:45pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan - Date Edited: 1/24/03 7:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: YodaJeff
	I'm only "ignorant" when it comes to the EU. I don't think one should have to read all of the EU in order to discuss what amount of alcohol-related discussion should be allowed here. I'm posting here because I agree that some alcohol-related discussion should be allowed, and I want to help draw the line on how much is too much. Since you have experience with the EU aspect of Star Wars that I'm "ignorant" about, you can help explain what depth the EU goes into discussing drinking, which hopefully can help everyone who doesn't read the EU decide on what type of alcohol-related discussion should be allowed. Edit: " i think dp4mp's last post best displays what those limits should be." Okay, now we're getting somewhere. What does everyone else think about this? -----signature----- The JC can't be everything for everyone. "It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level."
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Dark Lady Mara Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:46pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	You're supposed to say Han made a habit of getting drunk off his behind after Chewie's death in the NJO books. But you could also point out that the NJO books have contained graphic deaths and a lot of other things that are definitely not kid-friendly. The EU isn't necessarily the best standard to go by, since the books have been written for an older audience than the Star Wars movies were made for. -----signature----- "Sci Fi has been associated with geeks and dysfunctional, antisocial boys in their basements with video games and stuff like that, as opposed to... the female audience." ~~ SPOILER-FREE TILLLL EPISODE IV "there aren't that many Ls in til." - farraday
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Padawan915 Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:46pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	Honestly, if there could be a guideline that just said that discussing alcohol offhand or with other users on social threads; and not glorifying alcohol or encouraging younger users to consume it then I think everything would be alright. Sure I'm not 21 (another 7 1/2 months, but I'm mature enough not to glorify it or encourage consumption), but I still enjoy a casual drink. -----signature----- Blue Yoda Society: SVC aka #2 aka Mr. Smithers Fandom Alliance of Philadelphia Join the Wiivolution "So I live by these two words, **** you, pay me" ` - Kanye West
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farraday Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:47pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan - Date Edited: 1/24/03 7:50pm (1 edits total) Edited By: farraday
	I'd like you to tell us why discussion of alcohol is even an issue since it occurs with great frequency in the EU. Unless your answer is that the frowning upon any topic related to alcohol has nothing to do with a desire to be family friendly for Star Wars but out of the owners own prejudices and beliefs. Edit// DLM I'd definately agree the NJO isn't family friendly, so why are we allowed to discuss it? Isn't there a bit of hypocracy there? -----signature----- Not photoshopped, digitally enhanced or altered.
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:48pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	One of the big standards in the past has been, "if it's in Star Wars, it's okay," and vice versa. The EU throws more variables into the mix, and that's where some question marks come in. -----signature----- Opposing Scrooge Economics since 2009
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Gandalf the Grey Registered: May '00	Date Posted: 1/24/03 7:51pm Subject: RE: AC Update, 18th - 24th Jan
	Damn that pesky EU. -----signature----- I play far, far too much World of Warcraft. L70s on Staghelm: Hopefire (Paladin), Silverbow (Hunter), Shadowhope (Rogue), Silverfire (Mage)
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