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anpu
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Date Posted:
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Obi Wan's Episode III Costume/Lightsaber
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Hey everyone, I want to get an Episode III Obi Wan costume for the opening of ep3 next year and I figured we can compile all our knowledge about this costume here.
The Costume itself seems to be similar in material to the one in ep2.
As for the lightsaber, we know that it is very close in design to the saber that Obi Wan uses in ep4. The only difference that (I assume) is there is the placement of a Covertec button/wheel and I think that like Anakin's the clamp may be diferent but I am not sure.
S_S edit: Edited to add an index compiled by gaiatha on page 7 of the thread - putting it here as a nice, easy to find anchor for those new to the thread. 
gaiatha posted:
Inspired by Justins work for the Anakin episode 3 costume I did something similar for the Obi-Wan Episode 3 costume.
I collected reference pictures, exhibit pics and screen caps for the cotume I# making for Paul (Rogan_Agar) and I want to share all this with you happy
Hope you can use some of it.
It's far from complete but a start
Obi-Wan Kenobi Episode 3
"I find that the most interesting side of playing Obi-Wan Kenobi is trying to portay as a younger man
someone we know and love as an older man. In this last movie we had to match physically as well. It was extraordinary
to stand in front of the mirror with all my wardrobe on - because I was Obi-Wan Kenobi, and that was quite a moment
for this young man." - Ewan McGregor, Dressing a Galaxy
- costume overview -
During the prequels the costume of Obi-Wan doesn't change as dramatically as the rest of his outer appearence.
Especially his hair cut changes from short hair with a braid as Qui-Gon Jinn's Padawan in Episode 1: a "Jedi mullet" and beard in Epsiode 2
to finally the more Alec Guinness style hair cut and beard in Episode 3 - Revenge of the Sith.
The main reason for changes in his Jedi wardrobe is to connect this younger Obi-Wan Kenobi of the perquels to the
old hermit living in the desert of Tatooine we know from the original trilogy.
In Episode 3 the costume of Obi-Wan Kenobi consists of these parts:
- inner tunic
- outer tunic
- cloth tabbards
- obi
- belt
- lightsabre
- pants
- boots
- robe
I'm adding reference pictures of the belt, lightsabre and boots, but I will focus on the "cloth" parts of the costume.
That's mainly because I'm leaving all the leather work to my brother and boyfriend every time we are working on costumes, so I don't have a clue
how to handle leather. 
To say it right in the beginning there are a lot of usefull patterns but you have to modify them all.
It's always a good idea to make a version of you costume out of very cheap fabric. From the prototype you can tell if you
are on the right way or should start working on the patterns again.
- inner tunic -
From a behind the scenes picture we know, that the inner tunic isn't completely made out of dark brown fabric.
Only the sleeves and collar part are made out of the brown fabric and sewn onto a white/beige fabric.
So the inner tunic is more like an undershirt, which secures a perfect fit of the tunic even during fighting scenes.
You, who want to make this costume, now have to decide, if you want the Jedi style tunic or use movie magic.
The collar is three-coated. On a pic linked below you can guess that the seams holding the layers in place
are on the very top of the folds.
Again in this pic you can see that the tunic isn't a full tunic and how the collar is sewn onto the shirt.
In one of the pics below you can see that the collar is a lot higher than the collar of the outer tunic.
It's best to make the sleeves 1/4 longer than you would need to get the piled look of the sleeves.
Reference pictures
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/innertunic.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/ObiWanneck.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/collar2.jpg
Fabric
Swatches of the original fabric used have been added to the Dressing a Galaxy Ltd. edition set.
Also any flexible dark brown fabric, like heavier jersey fabrics will do fine.
- outer tunic -
The fabric used for the outer tunic is very light, beige and crinkled. Because it is so light it's absolutly necessary to add a lining
to the tunic. The lining fabric is a bit lighter in color than the outer tunic fabric.
It's useful to have an additional seam around the waist line to avoid folds when you put on the obi and belt.
There is a shoulder sleeve tuck.
From the crinkle structur of the fabric you can tell that the collar is a seperate piece. But there is no visible seam on the outside.
The sleeves have to be wider on the end (hand) than they are on the shoulder.
Reference pictures
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/collaroutertunic.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/sleevesoutertunic.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/promo6.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/Fabric%20outer%20tunic.jpg
Fabric
Thanks to the Dressing a Galaxy Ltd Edition set we know the originally used fabric.
kay_dee found a very close match to the original farbic at Britex fabric store in San Francisco.
The only thing is that the fabric will need to be dyed and crinkled.
- Obi and cloth tabbards -
It's not sure if the tabbards are sewn on to the outer tunic or attached to the tunic with velcro.
For the Obi the only important thing is to take care of the structure of the fabric.
Reference pictures
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/promo5.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/tabbards.jpg
Fabric
The same fabric used for the outer tunic
- pants -
Not much to say about the pants. Buy or make something you feel comfortable in
Reference pics
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/pants.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/pants%20fabric.jpg
Fabric
I've added a scan of my Dressing a Galaxy swatch but I think they glued it in on the wrong side.... 
- robe -
Trisha Biggar writes about the robe:
"While sourcing Episoe 1 fabric for the younger Obi-Wan Kenobi that would retain the fundamental appearance and
textures used for the original character, I came across several rolly of vintage brown wool fabrics in a warehouse
in the East End of London that still had the utility marks on te selvedges, which meant they had been manufactured
around the time of the Second World War, when textiles were rationes. [...]"
You can tell it could be impossible to find the exact fabric for the robe. If not let me know
The robe as a attached hood with a visible seam in the middle.
The seam between hood and rest of the robe is cover with a stripe of fabric
Reference pictures
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/robe.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/robeseam.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/robeshoulder.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/robesleeves.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/seamhood.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/news_ep3_obi-wan.jpg
- belt, boots and lightsabre -
Reference pictures
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/Bild%20102.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/Bild%20101.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/belt1.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/belt2.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/promo5.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/boots%201.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/23990/boots2.jpg
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lgtsbr
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Date Posted:
12/5/04 5:06pm
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yea the saber is a bit different - from the pics I have seen it appears to be just slightly different.
-Smaller Diameter
-Neck is a bit longer I think
-Control Box is different - prob similar to the Anakin setup
-Covertec instead of a d-ring
-Coloring I think is a bit different - the brass doesn't seem to have the real dark aged look which would make sense
-The transistors seem to be different also - I know at least 1 is brass colored
I will have to dig around a bit to see if I have any allowable pics to post up
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anpu
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Date Posted:
12/5/04 9:39pm
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I have heard from someone that the clamp has red bubbles and someplace else I read it looks like Anakin's. The neck I am a little unsure of as well becasue I have seen in some pics it looks copper and in others it looks like a dull brass
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no bubbles - the same style board that Anakin has
I agree about the copper/brass look - the pics I have seen have actually had a two-tone look to it. Nice thing about the 2 metals is that they get darker as they age - so it would fit the style of saber we see in ANH
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Date Posted:
12/5/04 11:20pm
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The costume is similar but not the same.
The inner tunic is tighter and dark brown and doesn;t seem to gather nearly as much at the wrists.
Outer tunic, to me, looks a bit longer and a couple shades darker/richer.
Pants are definatly darker, more a khaki colour as opposed to the white.
Boots are similar but not exact. Basically take away the top loops and make the spat flush.
Belts the same except I think I may have seen an Ep3 pouch too.
and as for the saber I think you guys have it covered
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Date Posted:
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I thought the pants were green
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where did you get the idea he had reen pants...?
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Date Posted:
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some old pic I saw he had what looked like light greenish bage pants
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that's the lighting, don't trust just one pic, look at the this weapon is your life webdock, when the guy goes to obi wan's picture saber, it shows a body image.
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Hey anpu - a couple pics of the saber for you:
Hope these help you a bit
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wow, you know, i could take the luke RoTJ saber i made for a friend for halloween, and put some chrome tape on, switch the card and that would be about it.
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wow, you know, i could take the luke RoTJ saber i made for a friend for halloween, and put some chrome tape on, switch the card and that would be about it.
wrong - look at pics of both sabers, side by side and you will see the difference is as clear as day 
Luke ROTJ = machined, easy top
Obi ROTS, ANH = Grenade Body
Different layout all together - lets not even go after the rest of the saber as they are 2 totally different animals
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Date Posted:
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i know the differences, and i have everything essential to make a conversian at my house, i'm just saying how easy it would be, i saw the differences.
wow just read my above post i thought I said i was going to have to added a "grenade" type body.
musta forgot...
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nope - never mentioned a grenade body
anyone reading this - it is just not possible to convert a Luke ROTJ into any incarnation of the Obi ROTS/ANH saber.
Differences include, emitter end, wind vein, grenade stem, upper grip grenade body, clamp spacer, clamp or control box area, screws in the side of the clamp area, lower gear grip section between the clamp and pommel, pommel end being different, triangle ring being changed to d-ring (different size entirely) or hole filling in for the ROTS........and this just scratches the surface of what would need to be changed
In a nut shell - again Sal, one day you will actually listen to the guys who know what they are talking about, it cannot be done - of course the maturity thing is still not on your side so you won't listen. None of us are surprised by this because you know absolutely everything about absolutely nothing. So far on this board you have been all talk and no show, so here is a challenge - put up or shut up. I say it can't be done right, others will agree with me, prove us wrong.
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it is made from pvc, it can be done.
you use something called filler, you make a new end cap replace the lower section with a smaller diameter to hold the grips, and replace the box, and upper grips with a grenade type thing, i know what i'm talking about after all i made the saber i would know.
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PVC is no where close to accurate - again put up something relevent and accurate or stick to a hardware saber thread
Back to the important details
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