Author Topic: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
TC517  1391 posts
Registered: May '01
18201_U-3PO
Date Posted: 6/7/05 5:02pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
I babelfished the page... and does it ever mess up some of the phrases! I can't vouch for the total validity of the translation because I didn't do it. I'd hate to spread misinformation in the twenty first century or whatever. wink
Here is an idea for all of us non-Spanish speakers:


Once opened the first disappointment comes, the helmet does not come in the cardboard box as a display cabinet that if helmet includes "supreme", in this case, comes embuelta in a paper not very fine by the way.
First is to observe "cod piece", note that has been made very fast, in the edges notice some you fold and although the glue seems rare todavia this "fresh air" (it dips in grease the hands to you), so that it requires a general cleaning of the piece.
with respect to the gloves, they are not the version that are sold loose, but esteticamente are very well.
we found the pieces electronicas, the belt and "chest box", fulfills their assignment perfectly and they are illuminated.
with respect to the main suit, somebody habia commented that era of bad plastico, in my case, certainly is not skin does not authenticate (thanks to God) but is plastico cheap either, is not nothing of the other world, but it has dot of being quite resistant.
With respect to the internal layer, to say that realemnte is fine fabric, but miendiendo 1.75 ms (without shoes) is perfeccion.
with respect to a the external layer I cannot the same say, is a little but heavy and finished well, but measuring 1.75 ms without shoes approximately 50 cm exceed much layer, so that he is almost safe that everybody must alter it and cut it to size (by the amount of layer that exceeds, it seems that the idea of rubies was that everyone cut it measurement to its).
Also we found "chest and shoulders armor", in this case not this very or packed, since when "loose" being within the box all the weight falls towards one of the sides, deforming the shoulder (in my case I deform the right shoulder, tube that to by hand straighten the meetings), the painting is not no wonder, and him lack a little brightness, but to average distance these small defects are inapreciables, by aqui habia leido that were plastico very fine, bin, is not fiberglass, but it is not either that he is fine presiamente, acts or his as very, the negative part is that it does not take ningun type of adjustment of "thickness", people that are thin like I what it happens is that ponerte the layer this pushes the armor towards ahead and the frontal part rises upwards, nonestaria badly which they had put a little velcro between the frontal part of the armor and the suit to avoid that it rose.
The case this enough cofollowed good, mainly if partis of the helmet that tapeworm I, a Don Post to estandar, but that if, the one of Rubies it continues sinning of, the later part the same of "tames" is too short, leaving the nape of the neck espuesta (neck), also observes that the helmet presented/displayed the tipicas rallas of rubbing with other components, single appreciable very close by clear.
With respect to "shins guards" enough good obtained, and if tenes a aaltura as I (1.75 ms) they are perfect.
In summary to say that for advanced users, it mainly has certain failures of manufacture, but I assure you that for people stupid demanding (that does not look for one TALKS BACK of the original suit) are much ams that sufficient, all, and I say ALL my friends and relatives have been VERY MADE AN IMPRESSION with quality of suit, at first, when to teach them photos, not creian that outside I, if not but well algun actor of Lucasfilm, until it teaches other photos to them without casco.Auqneu I repeat, for people that looks for quality in materials, this suit of rubies is not the best option, the helmet either is resembled the sight in ROTS "it tames" too short, sees the nape of the neck).
That if, with unso whichever adjustments, a manita of painting, just a little bit but of effect "gloss", a cut to average of the external layer, and some cochairs but, I can say qeu the RUBIES suit has an EXCELLENT relation CALIDAD-PRECIO.
However, for who not teng alimite of budget €€€€ (or surely that are other options of much but quality and "better movie accurate".

What if I have observed, it is that to wear the suit by a prolonged period is almost impossible, the temperature is very very elevated, as much within the suit as in the interior of the helmet.

I believe that I do not let anything comment, I have several photos and algun video with the suit, in case stays interested in seeing them, tendreis that say to me as I can postear imagenes in the forum or videos.

Thanks and a greeting.

 

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Sister_Sola  2779 posts
Title: Manager, Costuming & Props
Registered: Nov '02
19254_Queen Amidala
Date Posted: 6/7/05 5:54pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
As this is now the second time I've had to post in here and remind folks to keep the discussion respectful, and remove flamey comments from posts, consider it a warning that this thread will be locked if tempers flare up again.

People are entitled to their opinions, and others are entitled to disagree with them, and even explain where they may be misinformed, but in a RESPECTFUL manner please.

Cheers folks.

Now, back to the topic at hand. happy

 

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gonzalc3  83 posts
Registered: Oct '02
14894_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 6/8/05 10:07am Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
SSintimidator,

I agree with you. The helmet on Hayden look kind of weird. I also like the old school helmets.

 

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KevVader  194 posts
Registered: Feb '05
18614_Darth Vader<br>with stormtroopers
Date Posted: 6/8/05 1:59pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
wow....that translator doesn't work very well, does it?? wink

 

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CYGA 
Registered: Jun '05
39841_Anakin
Date Posted: 6/8/05 5:12pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
Let me complete the translation:



Once opened the first disappointment comes, the helmet does not come in the cardboard box as a display cabinet that if helmet includes "supreme", in this case, comes embuelta in a paper not very fine by the way.
First is to observe "cod piece", note that has been made very fast, in the edges notice some you fold and although the glue seems rare todavia this "fresh air" (it dips in grease the hands to you), so that it requires a general cleaning of the piece.
with respect to the gloves, they are not the same version that are sold separately, but are very good.
The belt and "chest box" fulfills their function perfectly and are well illuminated.
The main suit, somebody mentioned that it was made out of plastic and certainly it wasn't made out of authentic leather (thank God) but it is not cheap plastic either, is not nothing of the other world, but it is quite resistant.
With respect to the internal layer, it is made of fine fabric, but since my height i about 1.75 ms (without shoes) it fits perfectly.
With respect to a the external layer I cannot say the same thing, it is a little bit heavier and finished well, but measuring 1.75 ms without shoes approximately 50 cm exceed, so that it is safe to say that everybody must alter it and cut it to size (by the amount of layer that exceeds. It seems that Rubies made this so that everyone could fit it accordingly.

The "chest and shoulders armor" were not well packed. Being "loose" in the box all the weight fell towards one of the sides, deforming the shoulder (in my case it deform the right shoulder). The painting is not that great, and lackd a little brightness, but from an average distance these small defects are not noticebl.I read before that they were made of very thin plastic and not fiberglass. It is not that bad, my only complaint is that you cannot adjust them. If you are thin like me, you will have a hard time making it look good. It would of been great if they had some velcro to adjust this.

The box is very good. Unfortunately the helmet didn't come inside the advertise box for the supreme edition helmet.It came inside a plastic box. I owned a Don Post standard helmet and this helmet has one of DPs main problems. The helmet is not long enough to cover the completely the back of the head. The helmet is made of plastic and was damage a little bit by the other components but it is only noticeble from a short distance.
With respect to "shins guards" they are quite good, and for a person measureing (1.75 ms) they are perfect.

In summary, the suit is not perfect. For advanced users, it will have a bunch of problems, but for the vast majority (that does not TALK about the original suit) is good enough. ALL my friends and relatives were impressed with the quality of the suit. When I show them the pictures they tought that I was an Actor from Lucasfilm, until I show them some pictures without the helmet. For people that look for high quality materials, this suit is not the best option.

With a little bit of upgrading, such as painting, cutting the cape, and others, it will look very good. For the price it is quite good.
However, for those who don't have a budget problem there are other options which are of better quality and more movie accurate.

What I have seen is that it is imposible to wear the suit for a long period of time. It is very hot when you wear it.

I have several pictures and a video with the suit, in case someone is interested in seeing them.

Thanks and a greeting.

 

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TC517  1391 posts
Registered: May '01
18201_U-3PO
Date Posted: 6/8/05 9:42pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
Awesome! Thanks for the translation! happy

 

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KevVader  194 posts
Registered: Feb '05
18614_Darth Vader<br>with stormtroopers
Date Posted: 6/9/05 1:32pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
....there ya go! Now get busy modifying it!

 

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gonzalc3  83 posts
Registered: Oct '02
14894_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 6/9/05 2:29pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
Does anyone know where can I get a nice pair of boots for this costume?

 

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KevVader  194 posts
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 6/9/05 2:54pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
.....again, check ebay....do a search "officer boots", tyou should get multiple hits with some very nice boots.....also do a search "Darth Vader boots".....you should get a couple of hits with vinyl cheapies (which work well) to more expensive leather ones....

 

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CYGA 
Registered: Jun '05
39841_Anakin
Date Posted: 6/9/05 4:49pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
I actually did a search on ebay and found only one good pair
from Attitude Boots. In another website (www.costumejunkie.com) I found
some other awsome pair. I guess that the question for the pro Vader builders
is that how accurate and good are these? Or what do you recomend?

Thanks

Christian

 

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KevVader  194 posts
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 6/9/05 5:31pm Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume - Date Edited: 6/9/05 5:35pm (1 edits total) Edited By: KevVader
Well....if you do a search by "officer boots" you will get about 40 hits......a lot of which are pretty close to accurate...as long as they are black, have a semi-round toe, 1 - 2" heel and have the "w" toe welt they will be accurate as this is the only part of the boot that shows...

 

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Rogan_Agar  3129 posts
Registered: Dec '04
17452_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 6/10/05 1:08am Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
The site you mentioned (which is by the way sadly forbidden to do here) is great. I recieved my shipment yesterday, including all soft parts of the costume. It looks just awesome (photos soon to be posted).

Yes those are expansive, but you won't be able to see a difference compared to the screen used versions.

A freind of mine bought the Rubies just for fun (well he has rich parents) we will meet this weekend, so I will take a closer examination of it.

 

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Q99213  3814 posts
Title: Retired Chapter Rep
Registered: Nov '01
40709_Thrawn
Date Posted: 6/10/05 5:38am Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
Guys, it's not really fair to judge the 501st as a whole on what the costume quality is currently displayed. Each garrison has their own membership officer that approves a costume. Unless there is a specific question about a costume, tne Legion Membership Officer never even sees it. This is a flawed system, I know, but I've been the Florda GML for about three weeks now and work three hours a day (on average) approving new members, so imagine if there was one person to do all of this themselves!!!

THe issue with the Rubies is not accuracy or look, but material. Rubies has never been known for their quality products as they are more tailored to the halloween/masquerage crowd. Some Rubies products are allowed for membership, like their Biker Scout helmet and Vader helmet, both which have to be heavily modified. That's the way of this hobby. You can't buy anything off the shelf and join the 501st, not even quality ABS stormtrooper armor. Everything must be modified in some fashion. If someone wants to buy a Rubies Supreme Costume and use it as a base version for a better looking Vader, that's fine. But simply buying one on ebay does not meet the requirements.

 

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Rogan_Agar  3129 posts
Registered: Dec '04
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Date Posted: 6/11/05 10:04am Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
I have seen it.

It looks good from distance, but when you come closer... Mhhhh... Even the average citizen will be tell you there is something wrong.

IMO it is the painting of the armour. My friend is going to repaint it. He will also modify the helmet, adding better tusks a better nose, new lenses and giving it a repaint in the TESB/ROTJ two color scheme.

I hope, that I will be to post some pics of his customised version.

 

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gonzalc3  83 posts
Registered: Oct '02
14894_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 6/11/05 10:39am Subject: RE: Darth Vader Supreme Costume
In your opinion, what will be the first thing that you would
modify on the supreme edition costume? Is it the armor and helmet?

 

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